@alexander.wade We can advise all sorts of roses for your purposes but it would be good to know .. 1. Where you will be buying your rose, i.e. locally or online - which site.. David Austin? it narrows our options considerably.. presumably you want repeat flowering, and not a rambler type?..
2. What colour do you want... e.g. white on a white wall may not be the best option..
3. Do you have supports in place, such as vine eyes with wires attached?
Oh I've just checked your link... plant about 1 foot out from the wall, and yes you will need some support structure, either attaching a trellis or eyes/wiring..
thanks..
@Mr. Vine Eye Has some examples of wall training to show you...
No distraction @alexander.wade we are mostly at the chat and sharing advice stage!
For recommendations let us know whereabouts you are located and how sheltered the house is, because full sun is different in an exposed location in Scotland to a sheltered corner of the far south of the UK. Any colour preference too?
@Mr. Vine Eye has a superbly trained Malvern Hills up and over a window so I’m sure he can give you lots of tips. A rose with flexible canes is good, because if you can bend the canes into S or figure of 8 shapes up the vertical area you will encourage more flowering shoots, then continue to train them over and along horizontal wires above the window.
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You're in the right place here @alexander.wade, so let's get you started. South aspect is good for roses. I presume you are planting into the soil not a pot?, plant a little away from the wall to get out of the rain shadow, 12" or so will be fine. Yes, you will need support of some kind to train to, trellis, or vine eyes and wires are usual. Pruning and training can vary according to type of rose. How large an area do you want to cover?. Do you know what rose you are planning to grow or are you looking for rose suggestions?, in which case what height / width requirements, colour preference, fragrance, repeat flowering etc
Thank you for the reply! i am open to buying locally or online, my local garden centres have a good selection of roses but if the better options are online then no issues there! there is actually a small section of white render around our window so was thinking a pink colour may be nice! repeat flowering would be preferred although I'm not really sure what a rambler is however i have seen it mentioned a lot during my research.
Thanks for the advice with planting distance and i will look to get some eyes and wiring!
Sorry for all the questions however i am new to garden ownership and it's so confusing with different information everywhere! i did plant 3 David Austin roses last year(shrubs) and they look as if they may be in for a good year this year after mixed success last!
Again any and all advice is greatly appreciated!
Quick edit replies i missed whilst typing!
@Nollie Thank you for the reply, i am in Cheltenham, south west UK.
@owd potter it is clay based soil however i dug about a foot deep to make a new flower bed and put in organic compost. i have posted a picture of the area below! Suggestions would be amazing. i would guess the top of the window is about 10ft up.
@alexander.wade ..that's ok, we'll get you sorted out for sure.. you might like to check the posts by Nollie and Owd Potter above, as a few more answers would be good, especially what kind of height, as you will be the one, presumably, having to manage and control the growth.. thinking ladders etc.. not everyone wants to get too high..
Does anyone have experience growing climbing roses up and around a window on the front of a house? I posted a new discussion however was directed here as the place to be! to stop distractions from everyone posting their beautiful roses below is a link to the discussion if easier?
was looking for advice on how to train a roses up and around the window along with recommendations for fast growing full sun climbers!
I read your original post and came here. If you scroll up a bit in this thread, I think you'll find a couple of really useful training and pruning videos for climbing roses.
Roses love sun, so a nice south-facing area such as you describe will be perfect. Just make sure you plant with plenty of organic matter, at least 40cm from the wall, to ensure access to water, and you will need to be watering whenever it looks droopy in the first year.
Then the world is your oyster--lots of varieties out there. Things to think about: what colour material is your wall made of? This will affect what colour of roses look nice there. Red brick and magenta roses can be a bit eucchhh... Most important, I'd think of aiming for as disease-resistant a rose as you can, because who wants to be up a ladder multiple times a year spraying? My go-to sites are Peter Beales and Trevor White Old Roses. Both have search filters that allow you to specify the size of the plant, flower colour and disease resistance. Some large shrubs do very well as climbers too. You'd be best with a climber or repeat-flowering rambler, most likely.
From experience, I can add that actually the best course of action is to buy your rose plant, once you have decided on it, as a bare-root plant in late autumn. It will arrive with a much larger root base than a pot-grown specimen and settle down more quickly. But really, they are very happy, easy-going plants.
I was about to ask for a photo but see you've provided us, thank you... a nice easy one to sort out as you've done the groundwork really well.. Which side are you planting on, the left next to the black guttering, or on the right?
I don't think you need concern yourself with colour too much, on that wall.. it will give more choice.. do you like full bloom roses, scent or no scent, or don't you mind a single flower with just a few petals, or semi double form, or does none of this matter much to you?..
Thanks again, ideally i would like a rose with lots of foliage and a good amount of roses however i am very open to suggestions! i was thinking to the left would be better as the right has the overhanging cover in front of the door and the Gas meter. would it damage the drainpipe?
the house is red brick with white/cream edging around the window, i have posted a photo a couple of posts back. thanks for recommending the videos i will see if i can find them!
@alexander.wade No it won't damage the drainpipe, in fact you could camouflage the lower part of that by tying some stems to it with string, as it looks to be secured well on that wall.. Obviously you need to get the support in place before your rose starts to grow, I think only on that side needs to be done first, the support going across the top of the window could wait for another day.. Your home has a modern look, I think it demands a modern rose rather than an old type.
I hope members might join in and recommend to you, but I will start by giving you 2 that I think would suit that colour wall and location.. are flexible enough to train up and across, have scent and flower with repeat blooms.. I've grown the first but not the second.
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Mr Vine Eye has the second one growing up a corner wall almost identical to what you have there, when he posts a picture, take a look and see what you think.. I'm almost sure member @peteS also has it, I hope he'll post too..
Either of these roses should reach the length you require in time, and both can be confined on that wall..
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We can advise all sorts of roses for your purposes but it would be good to know ..
1. Where you will be buying your rose, i.e. locally or online - which site.. David Austin? it narrows our options considerably.. presumably you want repeat flowering, and not a rambler type?..
2. What colour do you want... e.g. white on a white wall may not be the best option..
3. Do you have supports in place, such as vine eyes with wires attached?
Oh I've just checked your link... plant about 1 foot out from the wall, and yes you will need some support structure, either attaching a trellis or eyes/wiring..
thanks..
@Mr. Vine Eye
Has some examples of wall training to show you...
For recommendations let us know whereabouts you are located and how sheltered the house is, because full sun is different in an exposed location in Scotland to a sheltered corner of the far south of the UK. Any colour preference too?
@Mr. Vine Eye has a superbly trained Malvern Hills up and over a window so I’m sure he can give you lots of tips. A rose with flexible canes is good, because if you can bend the canes into S or figure of 8 shapes up the vertical area you will encourage more flowering shoots, then continue to train them over and along horizontal wires above the window.
South aspect is good for roses. I presume you are planting into the soil not a pot?, plant a little away from the wall to get out of the rain shadow, 12" or so will be fine.
Yes, you will need support of some kind to train to, trellis, or vine eyes and wires are usual.
Pruning and training can vary according to type of rose.
How large an area do you want to cover?.
Do you know what rose you are planning to grow or are you looking for rose suggestions?, in which case what height / width requirements, colour preference, fragrance, repeat flowering etc
Thank you for the reply! i am open to buying locally or online, my local garden centres have a good selection of roses but if the better options are online then no issues there! there is actually a small section of white render around our window so was thinking a pink colour may be nice! repeat flowering would be preferred although I'm not really sure what a rambler is however i have seen it mentioned a lot during my research.
Thanks for the advice with planting distance and i will look to get some eyes and wiring!
Sorry for all the questions however i am new to garden ownership and it's so confusing with different information everywhere! i did plant 3 David Austin roses last year(shrubs) and they look as if they may be in for a good year this year after mixed success last!
Again any and all advice is greatly appreciated!
Quick edit replies i missed whilst typing!
@Nollie
Thank you for the reply, i am in Cheltenham, south west UK.
@owd potter it is clay based soil however i dug about a foot deep to make a new flower bed and put in organic compost. i have posted a picture of the area below! Suggestions would be amazing. i would guess the top of the window is about 10ft up.
..that's ok, we'll get you sorted out for sure.. you might like to check the posts by Nollie and Owd Potter above, as a few more answers would be good, especially what kind of height, as you will be the one, presumably, having to manage and control the growth.. thinking ladders etc.. not everyone wants to get too high..
Roses love sun, so a nice south-facing area such as you describe will be perfect. Just make sure you plant with plenty of organic matter, at least 40cm from the wall, to ensure access to water, and you will need to be watering whenever it looks droopy in the first year.
Then the world is your oyster--lots of varieties out there. Things to think about: what colour material is your wall made of? This will affect what colour of roses look nice there. Red brick and magenta roses can be a bit eucchhh... Most important, I'd think of aiming for as disease-resistant a rose as you can, because who wants to be up a ladder multiple times a year spraying? My go-to sites are Peter Beales and Trevor White Old Roses. Both have search filters that allow you to specify the size of the plant, flower colour and disease resistance. Some large shrubs do very well as climbers too. You'd be best with a climber or repeat-flowering rambler, most likely.
From experience, I can add that actually the best course of action is to buy your rose plant, once you have decided on it, as a bare-root plant in late autumn. It will arrive with a much larger root base than a pot-grown specimen and settle down more quickly. But really, they are very happy, easy-going plants.
Here's some websites to look for ideas:
https://www.classicroses.co.uk/
https://www.trevorwhiteroses.co.uk/
https://www.davidaustinroses.co.uk/
Which side are you planting on, the left next to the black guttering, or on the right?
I don't think you need concern yourself with colour too much, on that wall.. it will give more choice.. do you like full bloom roses, scent or no scent, or don't you mind a single flower with just a few petals, or semi double form, or does none of this matter much to you?..
Thanks again, ideally i would like a rose with lots of foliage and a good amount of roses however i am very open to suggestions! i was thinking to the left would be better as the right has the overhanging cover in front of the door and the Gas meter. would it damage the drainpipe?
@Cambridgerose12
the house is red brick with white/cream edging around the window, i have posted a photo a couple of posts back. thanks for recommending the videos i will see if i can find them!
No it won't damage the drainpipe, in fact you could camouflage the lower part of that by tying some stems to it with string, as it looks to be secured well on that wall..
Obviously you need to get the support in place before your rose starts to grow, I think only on that side needs to be done first, the support going across the top of the window could wait for another day..
Your home has a modern look, I think it demands a modern rose rather than an old type.
I hope members might join in and recommend to you, but I will start by giving you 2 that I think would suit that colour wall and location.. are flexible enough to train up and across, have scent and flower with repeat blooms.. I've grown the first but not the second.
The Generous Gardener
The Lady of the Lake
Mr Vine Eye has the second one growing up a corner wall almost identical to what you have there, when he posts a picture, take a look and see what you think..
I'm almost sure member @peteS also has it, I hope he'll post too..
Either of these roses should reach the length you require in time, and both can be confined on that wall..