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  • Looking for advice. I planted Graham Thomas against the front post of an oak gazebo. It didn't do much last year but has been putting on growth the past month. My garden helper, who is usually very good, decided to prune it, meaning all vertical shoots are now pruned to a bud. My question is should I move it to a border and start again (I'm aware of rose replant issues) or continue with it, knowing the upright canes have been cut. TIA.
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    @Marlorena Please don’t hesitate to comment anytime you have something to add 👍

    I’m going to put fertilser down soon. Still haven’t received my handbook yet 😭 
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Absolutely the opposite, @Marlorena, your advice and experience is invaluable.

    My schedule for fertilising? 1st of March, but thwarted as the hopeless courier can’t get the Alfalfa to me until next week sometime... Thought it would be easy to get here as they grow it, but no, only available as enormous hay bales. I managed to order 10kg of shredded, dried hay shrink wrapped in a bag. Pellets, no chance!

    I don’t have any DA food this year, but am keeping an eye out for the Vitax alternative just in case.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • I was looking to get DA rose food but they are out of stock and not sure when it will be in again.  Is the Vitax as good or better than the DA one.  I have a long weekend next week so had planned to get feeding done then.  At the moment the only one I have is the Miracle Grow slow release for roses.
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    The only Vitax I’ve used is Q4, which I wouldn’t recommend if you have pets (smell is very attractive). Other than that it was fine. I haven’t tried the rose specific one. 
  • PerkiPerki Posts: 2,527
    I fed my roses the other day while I was mulching them with manure , more convenient for me at the time. 

    The manmade plastic? balls feeds like miracle grow are temperature controlled , they release fed when the temperature is over 8'C. Don't think it makes a difference with organic feeds like bone meal etc.  
  • peteSpeteS Posts: 966
    @Marlorena
    I've directed this post to you Marlorena as I imagine you've more experience at moving roses than most people...

    I've got this annual dilemma about moving a well established 'Harlow Carr'. It was the first rose I ever planted, about 12/13 years a go now, but it's always been in the wrong spot. Unfortunately the proximity of the paving puts me off moving it as I imagine huge damage to the roots growing underneath it.
    Is it best just to leave it or could it be successfully moved.
  • YviestevieYviestevie Posts: 7,066
    @rachelQrtJHBjb Hi Rachel, I'm by means an expert but I dont think you need to dig it up you can replace the lead canes by training the next cane that shoots out below the cut as a new lead cane.  I've done that with climbers before and it has worked.
    Hi from Kingswinford in the West Midlands
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @peteS
    ...that's not a problem, just dig up and replant... sever any roots heading under the paving, as long as you get the crown up and about 1 foot or so of roots, even less. all is well..  if you struggle to find the main tap root, which may have wandered off, it usually heads off into a north or western direction, but this is not a large rose, so I wouldn't expect you have much trouble to be honest..
    ..don't fret over rootballs and you don't need to try and get all the roots out, just enough to start over again with...   5 minute job Pete?...
    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ..just to add, thanks again for comments..

    ..agree with Yviestevie above,  no need to move Graham Thomas at all,.. and you might like to mention to your garden helper that pruning back to a bud on English Roses is not necessary.. just cut the stem to whatever height you want and don't worry about it...  I'm a light pruner, so I keep as much as possible.. but pruning GT is necessary if you want to stop it becoming a large specimen..

    @owd potter
    ...frost is not something to fret over too much unless we get a series of temps of -5c or worse, otherwise roses are just going to grow regardless, just at a slower pace.. even if we don't feed them..  with feeding, we're just enhancing the result and making them look better aren't we..
    DA have to cater for all parts of the country, which includes the coldest areas up north.. so for those of us further south, we can start much earlier.. 
    East Anglia, England
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