Yes a bit of a blushing bride @owd potter, I know how keen you were to avoid any hint of pink, but as M said on your thread, it’s more how they start off.
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That’s a pretty rose and your photo is better than the publicity ones of the rose suppliers. Hmm, maybe when I shovel prune there will be space. Confusingly on Beales it says that it will go in a pot. I had been looking for a rose that sort of colour...
When describing 'The Lark Ascending' DA suggests it can be grown in part shade. I've got a spot big enough, but gets only minimal sun, but plenty of reflective light (from windows etc)...so the spot is never in proper shade. Do you think it's a rose which would accept these conditions.
@peteS Yes... all roses will grow and flower in that position, it's just that you may get less blooms than in full sun, especially in September... they are sun lovers after all, so that is the trade off with shade..
If you want an alternative yellow that I guarantee will perform just as well in such a location, it's 'The Poet's Wife'... in my garden I would say it was unaffected by the shade, other than to make it grow somewhat gangly and wide spreading..
Talking of roses in shade, my new north fence is progressing, with one bed finished, bar filling it and digging and mixing in manure/compost into the pretty poor soil there (don’t be misled by that layer of bagged manure there, look at the surrounding soil!).
I have two large tea/noisette climbers for this bed, 2m high x 8m long fence - white Mme. Alfred Carriere (shade tolerant) and yellow Duchesse d’Auerstadt (less so) - but a dilemma about which side to plant which. I would prefer MAC on the left, so it can scramble along and make use of the honeysuckle hedge heading east if it wants to. However that side gets more sun near the top of the fence, so may be better for the Duchesse. But the right side is more constrained for MAC. Decisions, decisions... any thoughts folks, should I just go for my preference and hope the Duchesse gets enough light on the shadier side?
Looking east. There is a doorway between the rose bed to access an irrigation point and the fence area in the foreground, which will be a shady shrub bed eventually.
Showing how the right-hand side is more shaded. The ground in front of the bed will be backfilled to hide the mess and the fact I run out of wood for the bottom layer in parts:
View from the terrace, I will be looking at the top half of these climbers, mostly:
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
That's a grand fence @Nollie I seen it before on a earlier post but still I am very impressed, I believe they is a queue for your services you can put me on for a new fence you can paint the other black as well .The loropetalum looks very nice, I were considering one but fortunately I didn't buy one, I have seen a lot of dead ones this spring not one alive
..it looks reasonably open @Nollie ..some shade from the hedge and tree which is not ideal, but considering your summer heat, I wouldn't worry which way around, and would plant where you want them in particular, because the heat will bring them to flower regardless of sun.. In England, I would not want Duchesse d'Auerstadt on a north wall...
Well it snow bit last night forecast light snow showers . Only a light dusting of 6-7+ inch of the white stuff . Very wet snow its flattened everything and stuck to everything even the telephone wires, I was out at midnight with brush bashing it off the shrubs it was even pulling the Amelanchier tree down .
Lady of Shallot
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Remember when I was referring to the Crown imperial fritillaria the other day about it bending , well its seriously bent this morning can just make out the orange flower on the right.
This Afternoon picture . To be honest I didn't think it would stand back up after that but its on its way , probably not stand up properly though.
Legitimate reason to travel perhaps, @Perki, building fences for friends?! The Loropetalum Black Pearl is amazingly hardy, breezed through near -8 for weeks, but it’s possible my warmer daytime temps keep it going.
@Marlorena, thanks for your thoughts. Yes it’s light shade really, it gets an hour or two of morning sun from the east and the trees behind don’t overhang, but that’s a really helpful observation re heat being sufficient. The Duchesse is a gamble really, but I just really fancied a yellow tea/noisette and it was the only suitable place. Needing full sun is more like partial sun here, I think, so I agree, definitely not a rose for a north wall in the UK and possibly not here either. I suspect it will be either spectacular or a spectacular mistake!
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When describing 'The Lark Ascending' DA suggests it can be grown in part shade. I've got a spot big enough, but gets only minimal sun, but plenty of reflective light (from windows etc)...so the spot is never in proper shade. Do you think it's a rose which would accept these conditions.
Yes... all roses will grow and flower in that position, it's just that you may get less blooms than in full sun, especially in September... they are sun lovers after all, so that is the trade off with shade..
If you want an alternative yellow that I guarantee will perform just as well in such a location, it's 'The Poet's Wife'... in my garden I would say it was unaffected by the shade, other than to make it grow somewhat gangly and wide spreading..
I have two large tea/noisette climbers for this bed, 2m high x 8m long fence - white Mme. Alfred Carriere (shade tolerant) and yellow Duchesse d’Auerstadt (less so) - but a dilemma about which side to plant which. I would prefer MAC on the left, so it can scramble along and make use of the honeysuckle hedge heading east if it wants to. However that side gets more sun near the top of the fence, so may be better for the Duchesse. But the right side is more constrained for MAC. Decisions, decisions... any thoughts folks, should I just go for my preference and hope the Duchesse gets enough light on the shadier side?
Looking east. There is a doorway between the rose bed to access an irrigation point and the fence area in the foreground, which will be a shady shrub bed eventually.
Showing how the right-hand side is more shaded. The ground in front of the bed will be backfilled to hide the mess and the fact I run out of wood for the bottom layer in parts:
View from the terrace, I will be looking at the top half of these climbers, mostly:
..some shade from the hedge and tree which is not ideal, but considering your summer heat, I wouldn't worry which way around, and would plant where you want them in particular, because the heat will bring them to flower regardless of sun..
In England, I would not want Duchesse d'Auerstadt on a north wall...
Lady of Shallot
Generous Gardener
Remember when I was referring to the Crown imperial fritillaria the other day about it bending , well its seriously bent this morning can just make out the orange flower on the right.
This Afternoon picture . To be honest I didn't think it would stand back up after that but its on its way , probably not stand up properly though.
@Marlorena, thanks for your thoughts. Yes it’s light shade really, it gets an hour or two of morning sun from the east and the trees behind don’t overhang, but that’s a really helpful observation re heat being sufficient. The Duchesse is a gamble really, but I just really fancied a yellow tea/noisette and it was the only suitable place. Needing full sun is more like partial sun here, I think, so I agree, definitely not a rose for a north wall in the UK and possibly not here either. I suspect it will be either spectacular or a spectacular mistake!