@Marlorena, anybody? re my previous question on anything to share on rose William and Catherine? Apologies if this was not the right place to post or if I should have started a new thread. t i a
Right place! It will have just been missed with so many posts coming through.
I know nothing about it myself except that it exists!
@Omori, thanks, I have done a bit of my own research but love nothing more than reading first hand experience from growers on here. I suspect as @Mr. Vine Eye suggested that people are busy catching up on this very informative and very interesting thread.
Sometimes climbers can take a good while to get going...I’m also waiting for a few of mine to take off. I’ve a new Wollerton Old Hall so I guess I’ll need to be patient! Is it @tack who grows this one?
@Meomye ...Re 'William and Catherine' .. sorry, I have not grown this rose, however, I used to know someone who did, and she was not impressed... apparently the blooms are short lived and suffers some dieback of the canes each year.. I'm always suspicious of roses named after famous people, as I tend to think the rose isn't that good, so they cash in via the name... that's all I know.. ..but you shouldn't let this put you off, we need to see for ourselves in our own gardens, sometimes they surprise us..
@Mr. Vine Eye you will have to remind us (or at least me!) of the aspect, space available and required height of the climber again. I recall you weren’t fussy about colour (apart from red being a no-no) against the mostly warmish toned bricks and wanted a cluster flowered rose/large panicles of blooms. I don’t have a lot of climbers yet, but I personally would go for a cool-toned bloom - lilac/purple/cold pink/white.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Mr. Vine Eye ... Re your climber for the wall.. I believe you have height, width and colour restrictions, but these are what I consider the best climbing roses out there, however, they are not all suitable for your position..
'Mme. Alfred Carriere'... ...don't be put off by images of this as a huge tree rose... it can be contained.. 12-15 feet is manageable, and it doesn't have many thorns to deal with... perpetually flowering once established, modern scent but at least it's there, and quite healthy.. I never had a problem with much disease... I also found it easy to train, and I think do-able with some confinement.. hard pruning of laterals essential..
'Climbing Iceberg' ...the clone in use now is just an amazingly continuous blooming rose, but it needs space to spread out... I deem it unsuitable for your position... but once established after 3 years, it repeats its flushes with impressive regularity rarely seen in a climber.. Not much scent..
'Climbing Graham Thomas'. ...this is a spectacular rose used this way, and if you look at photos of it on a wall, it seems suitable for containment width ways, I know you are good at pruning those laterals back... and will certainly achieve the height.. I've only grown it as a shrub, but you will notice that it's capable of blooming all the way down to the ground. Gorgeous rich butter yellow, strong Tea scent, and very early into leafage.. it used to startle me with its ability to get going so soon.. Needs time to settle and take off, after all it's a shrub to start with, but you don't have to wait too long.. A fine alternative is 'The Pilgrim', but when I had this rose I was never in love with it, but it may be equally suitable for your purposes..
'Wollerton Old Hall'... ..this grew 8 foot in the first year for me, and is a tall lanky grower, that if not spread out will bloom on the top.. impossible to keep as a shrub in my garden... very strong scent of myrrh, which not everyone likes... very few thorns... maybe not for your position there..
..there are lots of others.. 'St Swithun' I found like Iceberg, needs space to spread and I did not care for the blooms.. If I'm honest, I would not care for any of the pink roses either on your brickwork, bit of an odd colour pattern? but if you want any I can go into details.. [just noticed Omori's post above].. so I've not given any here.. but it's all according..
The 1st or 3rd above, would be top of my list.. but see what the future awaits..
I’ve just finished pruning all of my roses today.. noticed quite a lot of aphids (already!) on the new shoots.. pinched them all off by hand and felt a bit annoyed really. I had a bit of issue with them last year but to have them popping up so early this year is not a good sign. I sprayed sporadically last year but felt it never truly got to the bottom of it and I really dislike the idea of spraying on roses that I like to enjoy the fragrance of..
I’ve decided to give live ladybirds a go this year - both larvae and adult ones and I will also buy a ladybird lodge for them. Does anyone have any experience with using ladybirds as aphid control? ( I vaguely remember @Mr. Vine Eye has tried that last year?)
I’m keen to get started ASAP seeing as these aphids are already getting podgier by the minute feeding on my new rose shoots..
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I know nothing about it myself except that it exists!
https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.65661&tab=1
It's well rated on there.
While we're on the topic I asked a few pages ago for people's recommendations of just the best climbers that they know!
You're slacking people!!
...Re 'William and Catherine' .. sorry, I have not grown this rose, however, I used to know someone who did, and she was not impressed... apparently the blooms are short lived and suffers some dieback of the canes each year.. I'm always suspicious of roses named after famous people, as I tend to think the rose isn't that good, so they cash in via the name... that's all I know..
..but you shouldn't let this put you off, we need to see for ourselves in our own gardens, sometimes they surprise us..
https://www.davidaustinroses.co.uk/products/the-wedgwood-rose
... Re your climber for the wall.. I believe you have height, width and colour restrictions, but these are what I consider the best climbing roses out there, however, they are not all suitable for your position..
'Mme. Alfred Carriere'...
...don't be put off by images of this as a huge tree rose... it can be contained.. 12-15 feet is manageable, and it doesn't have many thorns to deal with... perpetually flowering once established, modern scent but at least it's there, and quite healthy.. I never had a problem with much disease... I also found it easy to train, and I think do-able with some confinement.. hard pruning of laterals essential..
'Climbing Iceberg'
...the clone in use now is just an amazingly continuous blooming rose, but it needs space to spread out... I deem it unsuitable for your position... but once established after 3 years, it repeats its flushes with impressive regularity rarely seen in a climber..
Not much scent..
'Climbing Graham Thomas'.
...this is a spectacular rose used this way, and if you look at photos of it on a wall, it seems suitable for containment width ways, I know you are good at pruning those laterals back... and will certainly achieve the height.. I've only grown it as a shrub, but you will notice that it's capable of blooming all the way down to the ground. Gorgeous rich butter yellow, strong Tea scent, and very early into leafage.. it used to startle me with its ability to get going so soon..
Needs time to settle and take off, after all it's a shrub to start with, but you don't have to wait too long..
A fine alternative is 'The Pilgrim', but when I had this rose I was never in love with it, but it may be equally suitable for your purposes..
'Wollerton Old Hall'...
..this grew 8 foot in the first year for me, and is a tall lanky grower, that if not spread out will bloom on the top.. impossible to keep as a shrub in my garden... very strong scent of myrrh, which not everyone likes... very few thorns... maybe not for your position there..
..there are lots of others.. 'St Swithun' I found like Iceberg, needs space to spread and I did not care for the blooms.. If I'm honest, I would not care for any of the pink roses either on your brickwork, bit of an odd colour pattern? but if you want any I can go into details.. [just noticed Omori's post above].. so I've not given any here.. but it's all according..
The 1st or 3rd above, would be top of my list.. but see what the future awaits..
I’ve decided to give live ladybirds a go this year - both larvae and adult ones and I will also buy a ladybird lodge for them. Does anyone have any experience with using ladybirds as aphid control? ( I vaguely remember @Mr. Vine Eye has tried that last year?)
I’m keen to get started ASAP seeing as these aphids are already getting podgier by the minute feeding on my new rose shoots..