Val40, am with you on this one. Our first "home" purchase was a caravan, which became deposit for our first house, had a spin dryer in the late 70s after a mangle in l970 when I first married, no fridge, or central heating. House repossesed 1989, plus furniture. after Husband tried to kill me, had taken out mortgages on the property by forging my signature. Spent a year in temp accomodation, a house that was being demolished for a petrol station and shop, (near my youngest daughter) given a council property, tiny cottage, swapped to a larger property, old crittal metal windows, no central heating, used to get ice on the inside of the bedroom windows in winter! This wasnt the dark ages it was less than 20 years ago. Bought the property, did it up, in my 40s, worked full time nights, some times going home and doing an agency shift, didnt get to bed after a night shift till my daughter (second marriage) was at school, so 5 years.Husband made redundant a month after completing on the sale, and a further 4 times in the next 8 years. No, I dont know anyone who was lucky enough to buy a property at 19. A lot of our relatives and friends got council properties and thought we were mad to buy!
Don't think so. Apparently the Court decision was made because of irregularities regarding the "count" - postal votes being opened before voting day, people "signing off" things which they hadn't actually seen, and so on. I think I read somewhere that the majority was only around 30,000 so calls for a re-count in this case might be seen to be valid.
We couldnt afford the mortgage there and do the place up, so bought a completely unmodernised 1930s house, with youngest 2 children, (they were not happy) spent the next 12 years doing that one up, downsized to the retirement bungalow, gave my notice in to retire from my permanent job (was doing almost 100 mile round trip, and 12 and half hour night shift) but was going to work at 2 local Hospitals in the Nurse Bank, 3 days later OH came home told me his company had liquidated. So I recinded my retirement went back to work full time for the next 4 years. He spent a year unemployed, applied for over 50 jobs, finnally back working in exactly the same site, taken over by someone else. All plans for doing this place up had to be put on hold, we had to use our little pension pot to live on for that year.So, yes, to be told, we are lucky, its alright for us, the feathers do spit!
@punkdoc, the thing is there were lies/half truths told on both campaigning sides. Voters shouldn't have been so gullible. Some of the public are obviously happy being spoon fed. I'm not saying that it is easy to navigate and filter out the disinformation, but it is easier than ever to get information via the Internet. May it be a lesson to the general public.
@aym280, I'd have thought that multiple residence/flats should allow for more garden/park space. Building on every postage size stamp plot available negates that. (Some private space is healthy.)
It's easy to forget that we're using this forum because we're interested in gardening - a minority of the population really. I reckon I'm perhaps reasonably familiar with this because I meet lots of people during the course of my work for an estate agent and what most of them seem to want is at least two off-road parking spaces rather than a garden. If they have children, they just seem to want enough space for a trampoline, and an astonishing proportion of them can't even distinguish between weeds and what they'd call "plants". Most recent example was a house viewer/prospective purchaser who had brought his mother with him to look at a rather expensive house down a country lane. He had to ask her what the "white flowers" were in the boundary hedge. ................... it was a hawthorn hedge.
The points being made in this thread about which generation has had it toughest reminded me of the old Monty Python 'Four Yorkshiremen' sketch .... so I've just found the script
Val, to clarify. I was talking about MY generation. My first flat was 2 rooms with a corridor and a loo at the end, not even a wash hand basin, but it was mine.
I fear this could all turn a bit 4 Yorkshiremen.
Nobody has had it easy, nor do they now. There's no point in calling people " rich babyboomers" or " the spoon fed generation", it doesn't help.
I think that a huge part of the problem nowadays is the widening gap between the rich and poor in the UK.
The life style and life experience of a pretty large portion of society is a long way removed from that of the rest of the country, and it has been proved that social mobility nowadays is getting worse rather than better. This has lead to a large 'underclass' who feel totally alienated .......... in the past in other countries this has lead to revolution ....
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
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Val40, am with you on this one. Our first "home" purchase was a caravan, which became deposit for our first house, had a spin dryer in the late 70s after a mangle in l970 when I first married, no fridge, or central heating. House repossesed 1989, plus furniture. after Husband tried to kill me, had taken out mortgages on the property by forging my signature. Spent a year in temp accomodation, a house that was being demolished for a petrol station and shop, (near my youngest daughter) given a council property, tiny cottage, swapped to a larger property, old crittal metal windows, no central heating, used to get ice on the inside of the bedroom windows in winter! This wasnt the dark ages it was less than 20 years ago. Bought the property, did it up, in my 40s, worked full time nights, some times going home and doing an agency shift, didnt get to bed after a night shift till my daughter (second marriage) was at school, so 5 years.Husband made redundant a month after completing on the sale, and a further 4 times in the next 8 years. No, I dont know anyone who was lucky enough to buy a property at 19. A lot of our relatives and friends got council properties and thought we were mad to buy!
We couldnt afford the mortgage there and do the place up, so bought a completely unmodernised 1930s house, with youngest 2 children, (they were not happy) spent the next 12 years doing that one up, downsized to the retirement bungalow, gave my notice in to retire from my permanent job (was doing almost 100 mile round trip, and 12 and half hour night shift) but was going to work at 2 local Hospitals in the Nurse Bank, 3 days later OH came home told me his company had liquidated. So I recinded my retirement went back to work full time for the next 4 years. He spent a year unemployed, applied for over 50 jobs, finnally back working in exactly the same site, taken over by someone else. All plans for doing this place up had to be put on hold, we had to use our little pension pot to live on for that year.So, yes, to be told, we are lucky, its alright for us, the feathers do spit!
@punkdoc, the thing is there were lies/half truths told on both campaigning sides. Voters shouldn't have been so gullible. Some of the public are obviously happy being spoon fed. I'm not saying that it is easy to navigate and filter out the disinformation, but it is easier than ever to get information via the Internet. May it be a lesson to the general public.
@aym280, I'd have thought that multiple residence/flats should allow for more garden/park space. Building on every postage size stamp plot available negates that. (Some private space is healthy.)
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It's easy to forget that we're using this forum because we're interested in gardening - a minority of the population really. I reckon I'm perhaps reasonably familiar with this because I meet lots of people during the course of my work for an estate agent and what most of them seem to want is at least two off-road parking spaces rather than a garden. If they have children, they just seem to want enough space for a trampoline, and an astonishing proportion of them can't even distinguish between weeds and what they'd call "plants". Most recent example was a house viewer/prospective purchaser who had brought his mother with him to look at a rather expensive house down a country lane. He had to ask her what the "white flowers" were in the boundary hedge. ................... it was a hawthorn hedge.
Hi Folks,
Thought I'd try and lighten the mood a bit.
The points being made in this thread about which generation has had it toughest reminded me of the old Monty Python 'Four Yorkshiremen' sketch .... so I've just found the script
http://www.davidpbrown.co.uk/jokes/monty-python-four-yorkshiremen.html
Had me in stitches ...
Bee x
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Val, to clarify. I was talking about MY generation. My first flat was 2 rooms with a corridor and a loo at the end, not even a wash hand basin, but it was mine.
I fear this could all turn a bit 4 Yorkshiremen.
Nobody has had it easy, nor do they now. There's no point in calling people " rich babyboomers" or " the spoon fed generation", it doesn't help.
I'm sorry if I offended, it was not my intention.
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I think that a huge part of the problem nowadays is the widening gap between the rich and poor in the UK.
The life style and life experience of a pretty large portion of society is a long way removed from that of the rest of the country, and it has been proved that social mobility nowadays is getting worse rather than better. This has lead to a large 'underclass' who feel totally alienated .......... in the past in other countries this has lead to revolution ....
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
14th of July is coming up fast Dove.