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  • punkdoc says:

    I see things rather differently to most on here.

    FTSE 100 is more a measure of the global economy, and although it has recovered since the referendum, it is still down 20% this year, due to BREXIT fears.

    The FTSE 250, a much more accurate measure of the British economy, down 30% this year.

    Increase in hate crimes, not a BBC scare story, but actual cases reported to the police.

    Scotland want to leave the Union, maybe NI. to.

    Everything is not returning to normal.

    The EU has deep flaws, but it will be very hard to change things from the outside, and the rest of Europe will want to punish us.

    Boris the next PM? No effective opposition, the list goes on.

    See original post

     I do check a part of the FTSE from time to time myself and in January 2012 this part was below 6000.  In January 2015 it hit what was then said to be an "all-time high" of just above 7000 though this was only briefly.  In January 2016 the highest point was around 6500 - now it's around the 6300 mark which is what it was before the  referendum results came out.

  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016

    Just looking at the exchange rate with the Euro.  As recently as 7th April 2016 the exchange rate was 1.235, whilst almost exactly a year ago it was at 1.45.  Go back a year further to 1st July 2014 and it was at 1.20.

    Exchange rates fluctuate all the time so trying to make a judgement based on movement over a couple of weeks is totally pointless.

  • PalaisglidePalaisglide Posts: 3,414

    Boris Johnson has pulled out of the leadership race, WHY???

    He caused the turmoil and now does not wish to face the music of the next two years negotiations, am I right in smelling one very large rat in the compost?

    Frank.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,143

    He's been shafted by Gove, who has done what his wife told him to do.

    No one will ever trust Boris or Gove again.


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • GWRSGWRS Posts: 8,478

    But how has Grove shafted Boris , that what I want to known ?image

  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039

    Did anyone trust them before.

    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,143

    Well ... I think they sort of trusted each other image .................... until Sarah Vine pointed out to her husband what had been patently obvious to most of us for ages ... Boris is a liar - he's been sacked at least twice for lying . ... he just can't help it ... he's been promising the same jobs to different people to get them to back him ................... pants on fire .......... 


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • WaysideWayside Posts: 845

    Which pretty much leaves only one decent and honest man standing, and I'm not referring to any of the Tory candidates.  The back stabbing and skulduggery continues. British public meanwhile are left totally shafted.  Pathetic.

    Last edited: 30 June 2016 13:26:52

  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505

    Who dat Wayside?

    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,087

    Boris has pulled out because Gove has said he is not capable of putting together a Brexit team and lacks leadership qualities.   Pretty rich from a man who declared pretty much the same thing about himself a couple of years ago.   I expect Boris is now hoping Gove gets beaten by just about anybody and is going to bide his time to exact revenge.   Can't see him fading quietly into the woodwork.

    The British public has shafted itself, believing people like them in the first place and not taking the trouble to inform itself about the differences - or lack of them - between operating in the single market as a member who can and should influence policy and decisions (which the UK regularly failed to do) or operating in the single market as part of the EEA with all the same rules, financial payments, free movement of people and goods and services and no say in policies.

    Or it can operate outside the single market and pay tarifs on exports to Europe which make up about 50% of total exports.   This may well end up being the best option because, understandably and predictably, the remaining 27 EU countries are unlikely to be generous in Brexit negotiations and some, like Spain and France, will want to punish so as not to encourage their own dissidents and separatists.

    The UK now needs strong leadership to navigate its way out of this mess and come up smiling as a strong economy that can pay for its citizens ambitions for housing, jobs, education, health and social care.   For those who worry about excess immigration the UK has skills shortages and needs to train more bakers, engineers, car mechanics, nurses, doctors etc to replace all the EU citizens currently filling those roles and find UK citizens willing to work in care homes or as cleaners or serving food in motorway service stations and Costalot or picking fruit and veg.

    Corbyn is clearly a lame duck, no matter how nice, reasonable or whatever else he is.   He's not equipped to be a national leader especially in time of crisis.

    Last edited: 30 June 2016 14:55:12

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    Plato
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