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ROSES - Spring/Summer 2023...

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  • Songbird-2Songbird-2 Posts: 2,349
    That's a beautiful rose and the colour wonderful @purplerallim .I think I may have a bud coming on our rose, not too sure, it could just be a new cluster of leaves, so will leave it a little longer and then post. It's so exciting. Wonder if it will have a scent?
  • EustaceEustace Posts: 2,290
    edited May 2023
    Salvia said:

    From DA website: " flowers with great verve". Quite so.
    I already have Jude the Obscure. The scent is so strong on that one.
    Oxford. The City of Dreaming Spires.
    And then my heart with pleasure fills,
    And dances with the daffodils (roses). Taking a bit of liberty with Wordsworth :)

  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    At least we’ll get to see it mature earlier than usual thanks to said cock-up! Shame about the fragrance, possibly being sacrificed for other attributes such a bushier habit, health and/or greater flower power..
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    Nollie said:
    At least we’ll get to see it mature earlier than usual thanks to said cock-up! Shame about the fragrance, possibly being sacrificed for other attributes such a bushier habit, health and/or greater flower power..

    Yes, but I always wait for that Obscure Jude to flower! I think this way over time DA will loose some fans who liked their roses for fragrance. 
    South West London
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    @newbie77 So nice to see they left them! 
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    ^ That is gratifying @newbie77. The marketing department probably reckon they can shift far more product appealing to the mass market with ‘fuss free’ roses - if that is indeed is what they turn out to be. If they had retained their older, more fragrant roses as a special heritage collection then everyone would be happy.

    I was tempted to order Jude from Italy at one point, but it became OOS virtually overnight, so that ship has sailed. I’m going to try some roses from Guillot’s allegedly very fragrant Generosa collection instead.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • SYinUSASYinUSA Posts: 243
    Nollie and Newbie, that's what has happened with a lot of the widely available roses in the US. They're bred for disease resistance and vigor, and the scent gets bred right out of them. You really have to search for fragrance, not just happen upon one while at the GC. Kordes is the breeder for the most popular Knockout series. Are the Kordes in the UK and EU similarly unscented?
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