Alfie, yes once out of patent you could, under the breeder’s code, not the trademarked name. Don’t know about general UK regs for selling plants though or what their specific arrangement is with, e.g. Trevor White.
Now for some actual roses!
Hot and humid with leaden skies this morning, looks like we have a big storm coming, just as rain intolerant La Rose de Molinard is coming into bloom 🙄 Soul peeking in behind:
I did say Munstead Wood was holding onto it’s colour better, but it too has turned magenta. A day or two of 35c will do that:
I’m so happy that Lady of Shallot is happy and healthy in it’s new spot, has more than doubled in size in a couple of months. Flopping everywhere and in need of some more support though and I now need to move the yellow agastache from under it’s shadow:
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Victoria Sponge thank you for the welcome and the information. I have changed my mind a million times. I've been scrolling through the "roses" threads and keep falling in love with different roses. However, I keep dragging myself back to practicalities as I am such a novice. Currently my favourite for my rose arch is Ghislaine de Feligonde! I've asked DA to notify me when the bare roots are in stock in November. Here are some pictures of my current rose (Tess of the D'urbervilles) on my rose arch. I'm really struggling to prevent her getting fungal infections and really bad leaf spot (although I have to say that she still flowers beautifully). I also have Country Parson but she doesn't seem to be thriving that well either. Other than give them slow release feed in March I've not fed them so I've been out and bought some Tomarite and some Vitax Seaweed.
@Nollie - ah ok thanks. Maybe I could start a Hertiage rose shop on Ebay. I have 7 flowering cuttings now potted on into 5L pots and no room in the borders so I'm starting to generate a collection already. Those roses are lovely. I really like LoS in particular. How long do the blooms last in Spanish heat? Is there a lot of variation where some last a while?
Saw the prolonged rain forecast so picked some roses last night to put aside for a gift:
@Alfie_ it does vary a lot. Some are totally unaffected whereas others struggle depending on a range of factors.. garden position/sun exposure, maturity, heat, humidity etc. Generally blooms are less frequent, smaller, don’t last as long, colour gets washed out or pinks and often blooms fry around the edges. Of the Austins, Munstead Wood, Harlow Carr, Gertrude and now it seems Falstaff are pretty resilient in heat but the yellows and apricots tend to shatter faster.
It was a surprise to discover tea roses fry and drop a lot of yellowing leaves in hot and humid - they’re supposed to be ideal for hot climates. I also avoid certain classes of roses that reportedly prefer cooler conditions - alba, gallica, moss etc. Damask, portland, bourbon and polyantha seem ok. Hybrid musks are definitely borderline.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Nollie - that's interesting about GJ the blooms on mine are much shorter and wither quickly. My roses in partial shade do much better in this heat. Less blooms but much larger and last ages. Most dramatic is a first year Chandos B standard in partial shade (morning only Sun) vs established Chandos shrub in full Sun. The shrub has 70 odd blooms in its first flush but some of them were a quarter of the size of the standard. One of the ones on the standard was about 1.5 times the size of my fist! Bigger than my largest PAoK blooms (and they are big!). Very different colours too - the large blooms on the standard had a lot of pink in them and the shrub in full Sun they were heavy cream colour. I find this bizarre. The Chandos standard blooms in my opinion are by far the best in my garden so far whereas the shrub ones I would rank fairly average.
'At Last' rose. Purchased a few weeks ago to slake my thirst for Lady of Shallot. Seems to be fairly floriferous but the blooms are teensy (maybe 2" across) and sadly last only a day or two on the bush. We'll see how much any of that changes as it matures.
@Alfie_ I forgot to answer your question about 'Jude the Obscure'.. I no longer have the rose.. Once I had sniffed it about a thousand times, and got over that, I found the rose wasn't anything special to me.. flimsy petals quickly disintegrate.. gone.. It looked as though it would grow into a vase shape, probably large in time..
That makes perfect sense to me re Chandos, Alfie. Blooms will be larger and have more colour in just morning sun/partial shade, they will be paler and smaller exposed to full sun. As to Gertie, well I guess mine has had a lot longer to acclimatise to high heat - resilience (and bloom count) does improve with maturity, but regardless of age, heavily-petalled Austins here do need good soil and a lot of supplemental water to produce those big voluptuous beauties. Try watering Gertie more deeply/frequently and see if that helps?
Jason from Fraser Valley did a good youtube vid of the relationship of watering to bloom size and frequency:
@PeterAberdeen, I believe some time ago you asked for details for books on roses, sorry for the delay in replying, have had mobility issues since.
I have just found my 'Bible', my late mother-in-laws book by Peter Harkness ' The Photographic Encyclopedia of Roses. Printed 1991 by Colour Library Books Ltd of Godalming, Surrey. Gives a history of roses, their types then an A to Z list with lots of photos. Includes habits and measurements. It's a very big book!
My other favourite is Alan Titchmarsh's 'Growing Roses', a much smaller book and more up to date with tips on selecting, planting, propagating etc and again a list of favourite roses.
Not sure if the first book is still available anywhere but the second one should be.
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Hot and humid with leaden skies this morning, looks like we have a big storm coming, just as rain intolerant La Rose de Molinard is coming into bloom 🙄 Soul peeking in behind:
I did say Munstead Wood was holding onto it’s colour better, but it too has turned magenta. A day or two of 35c will do that:
Saw the prolonged rain forecast so picked some roses last night to put aside for a gift:
Sophie Rochas has an outstanding scent (sorry Victoria about the mis-tag. Great pics!)
Galway Bay is flowering well this year but seems too stiff for this obelisk and would benefit from a move to the fence. Live and learn...
And Rose des Cisterciens again because why not.
It was a surprise to discover tea roses fry and drop a lot of yellowing leaves in hot and humid - they’re supposed to be ideal for hot climates. I also avoid certain classes of roses that reportedly prefer cooler conditions - alba, gallica, moss etc. Damask, portland, bourbon and polyantha seem ok. Hybrid musks are definitely borderline.
'At Last' rose. Purchased a few weeks ago to slake my thirst for Lady of Shallot. Seems to be fairly floriferous but the blooms are teensy (maybe 2" across) and sadly last only a day or two on the bush. We'll see how much any of that changes as it matures.
I forgot to answer your question about 'Jude the Obscure'.. I no longer have the rose.. Once I had sniffed it about a thousand times, and got over that, I found the rose wasn't anything special to me.. flimsy petals quickly disintegrate.. gone..
It looked as though it would grow into a vase shape, probably large in time..
Jason from Fraser Valley did a good youtube vid of the relationship of watering to bloom size and frequency:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnM7nbPWEjM
I have just found my 'Bible', my late mother-in-laws book by Peter Harkness ' The Photographic Encyclopedia of Roses. Printed 1991 by Colour Library Books Ltd of Godalming, Surrey. Gives a history of roses, their types then an A to Z list with lots of photos. Includes habits and measurements. It's a very big book!
My other favourite is Alan Titchmarsh's 'Growing Roses', a much smaller book and more up to date with tips on selecting, planting, propagating etc and again a list of favourite roses.
Not sure if the first book is still available anywhere but the second one should be.
Hope this helps.