I was at my local GC the other day @Jason-3 looking to buy a rose, but I couldn't help noticing almost their entire stock of roses were exactly like the leaves in the top image. When I asked one of the gardeners there what it was, he said he didn't know. Needless to say I didn't buy any.
Thanks Pete, I have seen all of the most common fungal and virus that attack roses in the UK. This is none of them, I've never seen rose mosaic first hand but it certainly looks like it. Unless I'm missing something. If it is mosaic I'll have to destroy all of the affected plants which is nearly half of what I have in the garden
I was watching a magpie eating something on my rose arch. I thought - is it tearing apart of a mouse? A squirrel? It was certainly ripping something to pieces with close attention and gusto. I got out my binoculars and saw... it was ripping my rose buds in its talons - as if it were a prey item. What the hell?
@Jason-3 I think you might be confusing rose mosaic with rose rosette, which we don't have here.. Your first photo looks like rose mosaic, but I'm not sure about the others. there are a number of viruses that can affect roses.. rose mosaic is not transferrable to other roses unless via infected secateurs during pruning, as far as I know about it.. It also comes and goes, and next year you may not see it at all, it's very rare as it is in the UK.. I've only ever seen it once on a rose in my collection.. and you certainly don't have to destroy your roses because of it. Where did you get your roses from? and were they all bought at the same time from the same source?
I think it's weather related, as to whether the virus, which is within the rose, becomes active or not, but this does go beyond general rose gardening for most of us..
..rather gorgeous photos earlier, especially all those Austin's..
My internet is iffy at the moment and I have a specialist coming out on Monday to check, so I may get cut off.. Opportunity to post a few pics from today..
..the very bright 'Odelia'.. 'Scented Garden'.. 'Bienvenue'.. 'Mrs. John Laing'..
..as I don't have many roses at the moment, a few other pics.. Delphinium 'Delphina'.. Alonsoa 'Salmon Beauty'.. Anthemis 'E.C. Buxton'.. Salvia 'Royal Bumble'..
Thanks for your reply. I've had varios rose disease, canker, rust, blight etc, mildew etc it's none of those. It initially started on one DA rose from DA, now has spread to roses of all ages, types, suppliers and locations. It could well be spread via the secateurs.which I will thoroughly clean now
All the articles I've read tend to be American where it's a common all state if it is mosaic that the plant should be destroyed. 😔
@Jason-3 No, those are diseases not viruses and that's rose rosette where they need to be destroyed.. you don't have that. You would only want too remove a rose if you find it too unsightly to tolerate.. it's not going to kill your rose and will likely not be visible all the time.. if that is what you have.. my jury would still be out on it..
I'm not surprised it started on a rose from DA.. although rare here, they are notorious for sending out RMV infected roses in the US..
Choose any one of these threads on the subject if you have the time.. but I really don't think you need worry yourself too much, what you are seeing will disappear..
I just love having my coffee or a single Malt of an evening and catching up with the thread, especially seeing all your established roses and dreaming of my little newbie babies getting to such magnificence in a few years. How can they not with all of you being so helpful and informative.
Firstly, it needs to be said that I have spent some really miserable hours squishing sawfly slugs/caterpillars (call them what you want). It was disgusting but I battled on even though my stomach heaved!
If you remember we first noticed it on Our Molly, but she is looking better and more floriferous:
I promised you a look at the Hot Border, though it is looking less than Hot, Hot, HOT at the moment - until the Dahlias and roses start. Here it is:
In this border are two DA Roses:
and the Lady of Shalott. BTW does the buds always look a different colour to the final bloom on her.
Meantime Gerty still has her wiggle on and is pumping out the perfume. She is extraordinary!
Meanwhile, round at the front door Princess Anne is flaunting her self at all the neighbours and passerbys. A Royal with no shame, coquettish she is not:
Out back, in the North Border, the edging is going in (knowing @Marlorena love of neat edges!). So here is the view down to the bottom where the wildlife pond will be going in:
Meanwhile, in the side border the bare root Zepherine Drouhins are coming into bloom. They still need to reach the climbing wires, but they are getting there. Looks like we may even be seeing a funny double bloom (Pic. 1):
Zephirine's companion Clematis has also started her first flush:
Finally, sorry for the long post, The tie-in of Dorothy Perkins continues. I doubt she will flower this year - as I had cut her to the ground early doors. But she has perked right up AND I am pleased to say there is NO mildew this year. Even though it has been hot. Obviously Agatha got in on the act. I hope the fanning meets with your approval. FYI We think this rose is about 30-40 years old:
During our short break in Scotland, I got a chance to visit the national collection of Portland roses. Being a fan of Old Garden roses and especially Damasks and their offspring, I was suitably happy. Here are some pictures (part 1)...
Beds of just Portlands (except for a Gertrude Jekyll)
Bernard
Rembrandt
Indigo
Don't grow up - grow sideways.
Gardening in the West Midlands on a mix of neutral loamy sand & Victorian building rubble.
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Ld braithwaite, no scent but is still a decent enough rose
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I think you might be confusing rose mosaic with rose rosette, which we don't have here..
Your first photo looks like rose mosaic, but I'm not sure about the others. there are a number of viruses that can affect roses.. rose mosaic is not transferrable to other roses unless via infected secateurs during pruning, as far as I know about it..
It also comes and goes, and next year you may not see it at all, it's very rare as it is in the UK.. I've only ever seen it once on a rose in my collection.. and you certainly don't have to destroy your roses because of it.
Where did you get your roses from? and were they all bought at the same time from the same source?
I think it's weather related, as to whether the virus, which is within the rose, becomes active or not, but this does go beyond general rose gardening for most of us..
My internet is iffy at the moment and I have a specialist coming out on Monday to check, so I may get cut off..
Opportunity to post a few pics from today..
..the very bright 'Odelia'..
'Scented Garden'..
'Bienvenue'..
'Mrs. John Laing'..
..as I don't have many roses at the moment, a few other pics..
Delphinium 'Delphina'..
Alonsoa 'Salmon Beauty'..
Anthemis 'E.C. Buxton'.. Salvia 'Royal Bumble'..
Thanks for your reply. I've had varios rose disease, canker, rust, blight etc, mildew etc it's none of those. It initially started on one DA rose from DA, now has spread to roses of all ages, types, suppliers and locations. It could well be spread via the secateurs.which I will thoroughly clean now
All the articles I've read tend to be American where it's a common all state if it is mosaic that the plant should be destroyed. 😔
No, those are diseases not viruses and that's rose rosette where they need to be destroyed.. you don't have that.
You would only want too remove a rose if you find it too unsightly to tolerate.. it's not going to kill your rose and will likely not be visible all the time.. if that is what you have.. my jury would still be out on it..
I'm not surprised it started on a rose from DA.. although rare here, they are notorious for sending out RMV infected roses in the US..
Choose any one of these threads on the subject if you have the time.. but I really don't think you need worry yourself too much, what you are seeing will disappear..
https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/query/rose-mosaic/nqrwns
If you remember we first noticed it on Our Molly, but she is looking better and more floriferous:
I promised you a look at the Hot Border, though it is looking less than Hot, Hot, HOT at the moment - until the Dahlias and roses start. Here it is:
In this border are two DA Roses:
and the Lady of Shalott. BTW does the buds always look a different colour to the final bloom on her.
Meantime Gerty still has her wiggle on and is pumping out the perfume. She is extraordinary!
Meanwhile, round at the front door Princess Anne is flaunting her self at all the neighbours and passerbys. A Royal with no shame, coquettish she is not:
Out back, in the North Border, the edging is going in (knowing @Marlorena love of neat edges!). So here is the view down to the bottom where the wildlife pond will be going in:
Meanwhile, in the side border the bare root Zepherine Drouhins are coming into bloom. They still need to reach the climbing wires, but they are getting there. Looks like we may even be seeing a funny double bloom (Pic. 1):
Zephirine's companion Clematis has also started her first flush:
Finally, sorry for the long post, The tie-in of Dorothy Perkins continues. I doubt she will flower this year - as I had cut her to the ground early doors. But she has perked right up AND I am pleased to say there is NO mildew this year. Even though it has been hot. Obviously Agatha got in on the act. I hope the fanning meets with your approval. FYI We think this rose is about 30-40 years old: