The point of my posts was to show how things were and still should be if people still had the same sense of what is right and wrong. I don't want to dwell on the past but have to to answer your post. When I got married we didn't have much money just like many of my friends. We had children who were instilled with same morals and ethics that I had been. Their children have grown up and have stuck by their parents principals.
It hasn't been easy but we knew it wouldn't be, bringing up children is very difficult but it was our choice to have them. If things had gone wrong and things weren't always so clear cut, we would have blamed ourselves, we were responsible for them not other people.
I know how crime and gangs work, I don't bury my head in the sand.
Right and wrong hasn't changed. The world was arguing about right and wrong since man could talk. The rights of man aren't new. Thoughts on society aren't new.
People knew right from wrong - the 10 commandments didn't just appear in one place at one point in time. Society has had rules since society existed - you could argue that society is those rules.
Whether people adhere to the rules is down to them. How many rules do we all break - but think they're minor, so it's ok? Isn't that what everyone does - weighs up the effect/risk/gain and decides if the rule is worth keeping or breaking?
And why do we pat ourselves on our backs that we 'brung up our kids right'? I repeat, were those bankers who caused 2008 brung up right? I bet their parents thought they brung them up right.What about Boris? What about in a family where one child is 'good', the other 'bad'?
“Their children have grown up and have stuck by their parents principals.“
That seems like a simplified generalisation. Look back to the 1960s and 70s when a cohort of young people were rebelling against their parents’ strait-laced, conformist attitudes. So many young children, born to these ‘rebels’, grew up in households with values that were almost the antithesis of the mores that constituted their parents’ upbringing.
Within 10 to 20 years there was a swing away, a movement to more entrenched behavioural boundaries and a push against free expression. Then you have to throw into the mix the extraordinary pressures from outside the family as Obelixx and Dove outlined above. These were influences few of us older folk had to navigate when we were impressionable youngsters.
The golden age (halve your current age and add 20) is pretty much an illusion.
As far as I'm concerned things started to fall apart when the attitude of "Never tell kids off, let them express themselves" became the norm. Yes, kids should be allowed to express themselves, but they also needed to be taught that boundaries did exist. It's the removal of that element which has been at least part of the problem. Misbehaving kids these days know that nobody can touch them, or that person will be the one in the wrong.
A guy I worked with has 2 disabled children. Some of the local yobs decided it would be fun to throw things over the wall into their garden or continually kick their front door. Life became utterly miserable, but when he went after these scum (14 or 15 year olds) it was him who was visited by police. This despite him having complained time and again to police and had no support.
I went to collect my wife's prescription today and thought the package was smaller than usual. For some reason the surgery has reduced the quantity from 56 day supply to 28 days. Nothing from the surgery to explain why, and there is no shortage of the specific tablets according to the pharmacy.
The surgery has an on-line form to ask questions, so I tried to open that. Even that system is now only available during surgery hours whereas it was available 24/7. My wife will now have to do another repeat prescription request as we go on holiday in 2 1/2 weeks and will run out while we are away. The surgery just seems determined to create more work for themselves.
My OH's doctor told him that they're only allowed to put 1 month's worth on an NHS prescription even for people who get them free (OH turned 60 last year). I suppose it makes sense (from an NHS finance point of view) for people who pay the better part of £10 a pop.
Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
Reading this it will be interesting to see if they go back to one month prescription at my GP's surgery. At the beginning of covid I asked if I could have 2 months instead of one to save going to the chemist more than I need to and they agreed and have kept that up. I ordered a repeat a week ago and they have given me 2 months.
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It hasn't been easy but we knew it wouldn't be, bringing up children is very difficult but it was our choice to have them. If things had gone wrong and things weren't always so clear cut, we would have blamed ourselves, we were responsible for them not other people.
I know how crime and gangs work, I don't bury my head in the sand.
That seems like a simplified generalisation. Look back to the 1960s and 70s when a cohort of young people were rebelling against their parents’ strait-laced, conformist attitudes. So many young children, born to these ‘rebels’, grew up in households with values that were almost the antithesis of the mores that constituted their parents’ upbringing.
Within 10 to 20 years there was a swing away, a movement to more entrenched behavioural boundaries and a push against free expression. Then you have to throw into the mix the extraordinary pressures from outside the family as Obelixx and Dove outlined above. These were influences few of us older folk had to navigate when we were impressionable youngsters.
The golden age (halve your current age and add 20) is pretty much an illusion.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.