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  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    Whereabouts does jag meld into jab? It’s like the word ‘outwith’ which I have only ever heard used by Scots. Does it have any traction in the north of England?
    Rutland, England
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Aye - you 'incomers' @Uff.... :D
    I've never known an injection called anything else @BenCotto, but I'd have thought 'outwith' was fairly universal. Not a terribly common word I suppose, but I'm surprised at you saying it's only us 'northern folk' who use it. 
    Perhaps one of the north of England members can offer some info. @JennyJ for example.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    I think the first person I heard use 'outwith' was Gordon Brown, and 'jags' could be cars, but more usually they were the wounds acquired while clambering over barbed wire fences or through brambles when we were children.

    I find it quite reassuring that there are still some regiional linguistic differences in the UK  :)

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Indeed @Dovefromabove. We'd often describe anything prickly [brambles in particular] as being jaggy.  :)

    I could fair have done with giving that bloke a 'jab' this morning. Between the eyes...
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    "Jab" here. And I think the only person I ever heard say "outwith" was Scottish (from Arran). I've seen it in writing but wouldn't necessarily know where the writer was from.
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    How funny @JennyJ. Not a word that gets used very often, but I've certainly heard it - perhaps older people use it more. I'm only 27, so I won't need to partake for many decades...

    I'll have to go and investigate now.... :D
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    Partick Thistle’s nickname is the Jags - obvious reason.

    Equally obvious, but it was only this morning that it dawned on me, is that ‘het’ as in het up is a colloquial word for the past tense or past participle of heat.
    Rutland, England
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    I'd never heard of 'outwith' before. In what context do people use it?
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    It means outside or beyond. A possible etymology is that is the antonym of within. Somehow the word order got reversed and without became outwith. Similarly the very hirsute American General Ambrose Burnside gave his name to sideburns.
    Rutland, England
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