He sounds like a thoroughly nasty piece of work. Not just a rapist, but with a history of violence. If I was sufficiently well-off (and interested) to sponsor a football club, I wouldn't choose one that employed him either.
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While I agree with @valerieroberts because of the direction this kind of topic often heads, it is her opinion and she's entitled to voice it. However, I also agree with most of what you've said @Posy There's a huge number of random threads flooding the forum just now though, and often being dredged back up for no good reason. I suppose it's that time of year...
While we still have a situation where every day there are reports of attacks on women, ex [or even current] partners molesting/abducting/killing them, and it essentially gets swept under the carpet, this type of event will keep happening. Often the perpetrators don't get caught, or if they do, the sentences are lenient. Unless something radically changes, we'll never get this kind of behaviour stopped. I'm not commenting any further on the subject.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I asked the question, because I am genuinely struggling to to come up with an answer myself, and was interested to know what people on here thought. The answers have been interesting, although I still don't know what I think the answer is. I think it is a perfectly reasonable thing to discuss, you don't have to read it.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
I think broadly people agree about these sorts of things and, particularly on internet forums, there is a degree of talking across each other.
Yes, people should get a second chance. But after they have shown contrition and remorse, not while they still act like they did nothing wrong.
Yes, people are innocent until proven guilty under the eyes of the law. That is necessary to protect them from the awful power of the state. It doesn't mean that I can't form my own opinions. If my friend said they had been a victim of crime, I wouldn't demand they produce forensic evidence and CCTV.
And yes, people are free to chose who to associate with, especially if they are spending advertising money. There are plenty of things they can sponsor, so why pick one whose leadership you disagree with?
There is still a horrific mindset in some quarters that a person who is too incapacitated to give clear consent (through alcohol or anything else) is fair game, and worse, is partially to blame for whatever happens to them. That needs to change. It seems to me that the CPS or whatever authority it is in Scotland not taking such cases to court is pretty much admitting that it hasn't changed. Maybe people like Val McDermid bringing this back into the public eye is no bad thing.
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However, I also agree with most of what you've said @Posy
There's a huge number of random threads flooding the forum just now though, and often being dredged back up for no good reason. I suppose it's that time of year...
While we still have a situation where every day there are reports of attacks on women, ex [or even current] partners molesting/abducting/killing them, and it essentially gets swept under the carpet, this type of event will keep happening.
Often the perpetrators don't get caught, or if they do, the sentences are lenient. Unless something radically changes, we'll never get this kind of behaviour stopped.
I'm not commenting any further on the subject.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
The answers have been interesting, although I still don't know what I think the answer is.
I think it is a perfectly reasonable thing to discuss, you don't have to read it.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border