Hi, do you have any thoughts or links on growing climbers over a large arch. I have been wondering about trying to train roses to grow down the far side. It would seem to make sense to plant one climber at each corner instead and meet and overlap in the middle. Any thoughts on this are welcome. Thanks
@Fire ... to train a rose over the top and down the other side, you need a rambling rose, not a climbing rose... as ramblers cascade and are easier to train.. I've done this with ramblers taking it down to about half way the other side, although if I'm honest, I don't like the look these days doing it this way... I would use the same rose planted both sides to meet in the middle, overlapping across the top.. some examples below from Beales garden..
..my own arch here is quite small, so ramblers would be too big for me, so I use short climbers for the purpose, but if you have a large arch and can cope with the maintenance, which would mostly be during the winter, then it looks more professional in my opinion.. a clematis can be planted for later flowers as most ramblers are once flowering, although some will repeat to a lesser extent..
'Apple Blossom'.. both sides.. ..these are 'Chevy Chase' a once flowering rambler with light coloured 'Open Arms' which repeats.. I'm not that fond of 'American Pillar' but they've done a splendid job with this, it's just fabulous I think.. ...to take the season longer, they've planted clematis 'Rhapsody' to go with it.. 'New Dawn'.. both sides..
Thanks very much for the detail and photos. I read and hear a lot about worrying about roses and ventilation to avoid fungal diseases, but professional arches and gardens in general seem not to be a worry. The arches like the New Dawn example look so dense. Then they add in some clems for good measure. Is it partly because they spray, do you think.
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@Imprevu one plant at either end of the arch might be the best bet.
I don't know if they spray... that would be quite a job with all those roses..
'The Country Parson'... 'Duchesse de Brabant'... ..a scented bloom from 'Tall Story'.. C. 'Margaret Hunt'... Veronica.. / Alonsoa.. C. 'Princess Diana'... Anthemis / Lavender.. and the way out...
'Golden Beauty' living up to its name.. Geum 'Blazing Sunset' in the background.. Gaura 'Pink Dwarf'.. very similar to 'Cherry Brandy', with good colourful foliage, green flushed maroon/red.. Hypericum moserianum.. Geranium 'Jean Armour'... ..my greenhouse is full of Fuchsias... this is 'Carmel Blue'..
..oh gosh just look at my 'Golden Beauty' today... light musky scent, very healthy rose.. ..vigorous and seemingly impervious to rain..
..this is C. 'Star Of India'.. one of the easiest clematis I've had.. it will grow and flower well from a 9cm pot planting in Spring.. this is 3rd year but I moved it.. I'm training it across top of my shed.. going to look fabulous.. .. earlier I put in some metal hooks across the structure, sealed with some weatherproof sealant, so the stems have something to hold on to..
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... to train a rose over the top and down the other side, you need a rambling rose, not a climbing rose... as ramblers cascade and are easier to train.. I've done this with ramblers taking it down to about half way the other side, although if I'm honest, I don't like the look these days doing it this way... I would use the same rose planted both sides to meet in the middle, overlapping across the top.. some examples below from Beales garden..
..my own arch here is quite small, so ramblers would be too big for me, so I use short climbers for the purpose, but if you have a large arch and can cope with the maintenance, which would mostly be during the winter, then it looks more professional in my opinion.. a clematis can be planted for later flowers as most ramblers are once flowering, although some will repeat to a lesser extent..
'Apple Blossom'.. both sides..
..these are 'Chevy Chase' a once flowering rambler with light coloured 'Open Arms' which repeats..
I'm not that fond of 'American Pillar' but they've done a splendid job with this, it's just fabulous I think..
...to take the season longer, they've planted clematis 'Rhapsody' to go with it..
'New Dawn'.. both sides..
'The Country Parson'...
'Duchesse de Brabant'...
..a scented bloom from 'Tall Story'..
C. 'Margaret Hunt'...
Veronica.. / Alonsoa..
C. 'Princess Diana'...
Anthemis / Lavender.. and the way out...
I was yesterday watching a YouTube movie of Paul Zimmerman who also said that you do not need to worry that much about ventilation.
'Tahiti'...
'Dr. O'Donel Browne'...
'Nye Bevan'...
'Kew Gardens'...
'Frilly Cuff'...
Geum 'Blazing Sunset' in the background..
Gaura 'Pink Dwarf'.. very similar to 'Cherry Brandy', with good colourful foliage, green flushed maroon/red..
Hypericum moserianum..
Geranium 'Jean Armour'...
..my greenhouse is full of Fuchsias... this is 'Carmel Blue'..
..vigorous and seemingly impervious to rain..
..this is C. 'Star Of India'.. one of the easiest clematis I've had.. it will grow and flower well from a 9cm pot planting in Spring.. this is 3rd year but I moved it..
I'm training it across top of my shed.. going to look fabulous..
.. earlier I put in some metal hooks across the structure, sealed with some weatherproof sealant, so the stems have something to hold on to..