I found your ‘roses in trouble’ very informative too, thanks for that, Sombreuil has been on my long list for ages, so it’s useful to see, was that balling/browning after rain?
I wouldn’t say it’s an error of judgement to try new roses or take a chance, though, otherwise you will never know. It would be if one battled on trying to keep a rose going if it really didn’t like your conditions or you simply didn’t like it. I try to research as much as possible in advance, but still take a chance every time I buy a rose. Some you win, some you lose!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Pete, Nollie, thanks... yes it's just an experiment with roses that we don't know too well.. I prefer not to research too much as I like to be either pleasantly surprised or disappointed.. I allow for that and don't regard it as a mistake as such... mistakes are putting plants in the wrong places where they are not best suited.. and we all make those I think.. usually too close together - everyone does it..
@Nollie ..yes, Sombreuil very much after rain and damp.. and it doesn't look any better today, worse in fact.. I don't want to be too premature with this rose though, but I know it's superlative in Greece where it doesn't rain for 6 months..
Well it’s feeling like Greece here at the moment, we haven’t had rain for a while and everything is parched! Normally we do get heavy summer rains and high humidity though, so a rose that is not rain resistant would not be the best choice. Lets see how yours goes. Please do keep experimenting 😆
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
...my sweet scented rose today is 'Crazy In Love'.. and very nice it is too.. .having moaned about 'Bathsheba', I get these lovely blooms again, and I do love the scent.. 'Gruss an Aachen' unfussed by weather.. ..nice basal on a climbing rose.. ..ants nest notwithstanding... I don't kill anything it the garden, it all lives.. weather does more damage..
Oh dear, how long have you had your Hypericum? if it is relatively new free yourself of it now !! It is an absolute nightmare thug for me, I tear out yards of the stuff every spring, it is under my pavings and punching through my walls. It is far too established to ever be able to rid myself of it, it has spread through all of my front borders and under my hedges so all I can hope is to contain it a little. Small compensation is that I like the flowers...
@owd potter ... aah, but you're talking about a different plant.. Rose of Sharon [Hypericum calycinum] which is invasive, but has similar flowers to mine.. I had it in a previous garden so I know what it's like.. you have my sympathies ... I should add - thanks for warning me though...
.. this is Hypericum moserianum, and is not invasive at all, and one of the best Hypericums for general garden planting, making a well mannered shrub.. it flowers all summer.. I actually took out a thorny yellow rose to put this one in, as it's next to a path..
That's good news. Thanks for the clarification. They are very, very similar I inherited mine and had no idea what I was letting myself in for. It should come with a warning...
Really lovely photos.. sounds like you have not been overly impressed by Nye Bevan so far.. I also remembered it as a rose with an unremarkable fragrance.. the blooms’ colour resembles that of Vanessa Bell but VB is much more fragrant and seemingly more vigorous?
It’s so nice to hear that you’re helping every one here for the love of roses.. and wanting to put it back on the map so to speak. I find it alarming that some gardens these days do not have a rose section or only containing a disappointingly low number of poorly maintained specimens..
I speak this partly with RHS bridgewater in mind which I visited in May.. having only spotted one climbing rose in their rather disproportionately gigantic grounds / gardens.. surely it must be illegal for any major public gardens (and RHS garden at that) to have so few roses.. their garden is mainly walled and I can think of so many ways they could have incorporated roses into all the structures / wall for dramatic displays in summer..
it looked like they had a high water table at Bridgwater, which roses wouldn't much like I believe, as well as the high rainfall Manchester usually gets, so it may well be a case of right plant, right place? I agree with you, I would be disappointed if they didn't have at least a few roses - I can't remember if the TV programmes mentioned any.
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..yes, Sombreuil very much after rain and damp.. and it doesn't look any better today, worse in fact.. I don't want to be too premature with this rose though, but I know it's superlative in Greece where it doesn't rain for 6 months..
.having moaned about 'Bathsheba', I get these lovely blooms again, and I do love the scent..
'Gruss an Aachen' unfussed by weather..
..nice basal on a climbing rose..
..ants nest notwithstanding... I don't kill anything it the garden, it all lives.. weather does more damage..
how long have you had your Hypericum? if it is relatively new free yourself of it now !!
It is an absolute nightmare thug for me, I tear out yards of the stuff every spring, it is under my pavings and punching through my walls.
It is far too established to ever be able to rid myself of it, it has spread through all of my front borders and under my hedges so all I can hope is to contain it a little.
Small compensation is that I like the flowers...
... aah, but you're talking about a different plant.. Rose of Sharon [Hypericum calycinum] which is invasive, but has similar flowers to mine.. I had it in a previous garden so I know what it's like.. you have my sympathies ... I should add - thanks for warning me though...
.. this is Hypericum moserianum, and is not invasive at all, and one of the best Hypericums for general garden planting, making a well mannered shrub.. it flowers all summer.. I actually took out a thorny yellow rose to put this one in, as it's next to a path..
Thanks for the clarification.
They are very, very similar
I inherited mine and had no idea what I was letting myself in for. It should come with a warning...
It’s so nice to hear that you’re helping every one here for the love of roses.. and wanting to put it back on the map so to speak. I find it alarming that some gardens these days do not have a rose section or only containing a disappointingly low number of poorly maintained specimens..
I speak this partly with RHS bridgewater in mind which I visited in May.. having only spotted one climbing rose in their rather disproportionately gigantic grounds / gardens.. surely it must be illegal for any major public gardens (and RHS garden at that) to have so few roses.. their garden is mainly walled and I can think of so many ways they could have incorporated roses into all the structures / wall for dramatic displays in summer..