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Notes from a Rose Garden 2021...

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  • cooldoccooldoc Posts: 853
    I am in love with those thorns/ stems <3
    A rose lover from West midlands
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Such a treat scrolling your thread, Marlorena, addictive and far to tempting!

    I was looking at Mme. Letuve de Colnet only yesterday, browsing on Roses Loubert’s site, looking for a pink bourbon. I thought it may be too similar to my new Mme. IP, then I saw your photo and comment on HMF.. I have earmarked Catherine Guillot instead as a possible candidate to lean against a clematis obelisk. I would love her parent, Louise Odier, but due to various reports about not being a rose for warm climates (contradicted by others!) I’m not so sure. Any thoughts?
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited June 2021
    ... that I wouldn't know @Nollie .. always a chance in different climates and yours seems quite unique in itself..  the Bourbon Mme Isaac Pereire is out of this world in Melbourne...
    ..I don't think I've ever seen Catherine Guillot, so an interesting alternative..  I like the deeper colour..

    ..I would love to try 'Eugene E. Marlitt' for a whole load of reasons..

    ..oh and thanks..
    East Anglia, England
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    No worries, Marlorena, always a guessing game as to what will do well, plus the choice is baffling sometimes, even within one class. I was drawn to the deeper colour of Catherine Guillot too, so I should just go with my instincts. Here, it may well be similar to the colour Louise Odier is for you.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @peteS
    ..that's lovely, I had forgotten you had it.... no need to disbud on grafted roses, enjoy what you get... we only disbud with some weak growing 'own roots' from cuttings..

    So cool and damp today I've just put the heating on for half an hour.. but it gives us a chance to look over our roses and sort out the wheat from the chaff... some are just rubbish in these conditions, and I have a few... will list those shortly for likely removal later this year..

    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ..these roses are in trouble..

    'New Zealand'... nice scent but I can't put up with this.. some of the stems are weak and collapse in rain..

    'Sombreuil'.. I took a chance knowing it was iffy.. I should have potted it first.. I don't think I can look at 10 feet of this, unless it improves dramatically later in the year..

    'Carmen Wurth'.. [imported].. such a shame as the foliage is simply perfect but the blooms do not stand damp and rot on the petals..


    ..others..
    'Mme Legras de St. Germain'.. I did know about this but took a chance.. turns brown as soon as a raindrop lands on it..
    'Dr. O'Donel Brown' [import].. balls in rain..
    'Jardin des Tuileries' [import].. all the blooms open at once, and collapse at once.. such a pity as I loved it until now..
    'Jude The Obscure'.. chosen for its scent, obviously, as the blooms shatter quickly in rain.. lovely in the greenhouse last year, where it might return.. needs hot dry conditions to look best.. the blooms barely open in rain..
    'Silas Marner'  still on probation... better than last year since I moved it, but the blooms don't appear to last long, sun or rain..  presumably can only get better..
    'Marie Pavie' or whatever I'm growing under this name ex-Roseraie Ducher...  does not like my conditions too much.. I'll be replacing with 'Nathalie Nypels' which seems immeasurably better...
    'Florence Ducher'... sad to say she has breached my tolerance levels for black spot...a  horrendous mess of a rose..
    'Mrs Paul'.. closely related and showing similar tendencies... may be better in autumn..

    'Bathsheba'... too many petals for its own good.. glorious at its best though, horrid at worst..  it's a toss up..

    'Aimee Vibert'... I did expect some blooms in the first year, but I'm still waiting.. I know it can be a late starter, into July and a great rose in time, but I'm impatient these days.  It stays though as it's not in my way and part of the fedge..

    'Bon Silene'  I thought I would like this, but not doing a lot for me, aesthetically..  
    'The Anniversary Rose'  I must have a dud as it refuses to grow..


    East Anglia, England
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