I’ve seen that advice for pruning laterals on climbing roses like that, it would make sense that a side shoot on a shrub rose main stem is treated like a lateral. I would be interested in the answer too @Fire. I was so disappointed that I wasn’t able to use my rose pruning gift voucher at DA this year. I have so many questions I want to ask them. Thankfully they have extended the voucher to next year!
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This looks vigorous. Plaisanteirie planted in a challenging position (shade, not enough space, competition - I actually hope she will outgrow it but it will also limit her). And in a war with my cat - it is where she likes to jump from the wall. She already broke some branches but I think the rose will win long-term.
@Fire and @Bright star yes the usual advice is to prune laterals on climbing roses, 2-4 buds or around 6”. If you didn’t, I imagine the laterals would keep growing and, say, on the top of an arch, be waving about in the sky, and those on wires would end up all intermingling. Not heard that for shrub roses, I just prune back by about a third to a pleasing shape, or, if it’s an HT (non climbing) or floribunda, advice is to prune the whole lot back to 6” and 12” respectively, or to wherever you like. I tend not to prune floribundas that low, maybe a bit lower than shrub roses. Not hard and fast rules.
Once-flowering, ramblers, old heritage roses are all a different matter..
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Sorry to come out with an 'anyone know this rose' question (I appreciate there are thousands) but... does any one have an idea on what this is? The photo doesn't do it justice, its a beauty in real life by some old stone ballistrades at Newby Hall. (in my opinion the most beautiful grounds on earth) All I can say is it was repeat flowering, planted in a trio so quite narrow, about 5 foot high, still flowering in September. I've run out of room for what ever it is, but maybe one day! I should add it had no name tag and the near-by Gardner had no clue
@Marlorena Thanks, I'll make a note when it flowers to see if it still looks like a Dublin Bay. Would be nice to give it a name. I've made a pigs ear of pruning it though because there's definitely a couple of crossed branches there. No buds yet.
I think its possible I also have a munstead wood rose. The rose looks similar. I've also pruned it wrong thinking it was a climber.
..never mind, I'm sure it'll be flowering in the next month and will look just nice.. although I'm wondering if my season will ever get off the ground this year.. it could be all over before it begins at this rate of progress...
..I lost all the buds on my Souvenir de St Anne's to the gales the other day.. all blown off..
@Rickyjones24 ..taking all into account, that is the modern looking glossy foliage, the stems, thorn distribution, growth habit, blooms, some of which have what is termed a button eye... leads to 'The Fairy'... take no notice of heights that you might see for this rose, over the fullness of time, with minimal pruning, it gets much larger than stated...
@Nollie ..re your Stormy Weather... not that we can get it here as far as I know.. but just wondering does it repeat well for you?... and how large is it now would you say?.. thanks..
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..gorgeous roses in Spain today !... lovely dark colour on MW..
@Alchemist
..I used to have Red Falstaff, on M9 in a pot... hope you get lots of nice apples from it...
@SeahorseFriend
..delighted you got those two nice roses.. give them time, they don't like to be rushed..
Once-flowering, ramblers, old heritage roses are all a different matter..
Thanks, I'll make a note when it flowers to see if it still looks like a Dublin Bay. Would be nice to give it a name. I've made a pigs ear of pruning it though because there's definitely a couple of crossed branches there. No buds yet.
I think its possible I also have a munstead wood rose. The rose looks similar. I've also pruned it wrong thinking it was a climber.
..I lost all the buds on my Souvenir de St Anne's to the gales the other day.. all blown off..
@Rickyjones24
..taking all into account, that is the modern looking glossy foliage, the stems, thorn distribution, growth habit, blooms, some of which have what is termed a button eye... leads to 'The Fairy'... take no notice of heights that you might see for this rose, over the fullness of time, with minimal pruning, it gets much larger than stated...
..re your Stormy Weather... not that we can get it here as far as I know.. but just wondering does it repeat well for you?... and how large is it now would you say?.. thanks..