@Rojas ... you have a pretty garden with lots of lovely plants.. I especially like all those tulips and what appear to be Gladioli..
.. thank you for your kind offer re the Indian rose... it's bred by famous Indian breeders the Viraraghavan's from southern India, and it is a warm climate rose that I wanted to grow in my greenhouse... I have contacted them on another site but I've not heard back as yet. The rose is called 'E.K. Janaki Ammal'.. and I think it's really beautiful but probably unsuited to my climate.. I understand they have it at Kew Gardens.. as EK J. Ammal worked there, a long time ago.. She was a famous Indian botanist..
Thank you again. I will get back to you if I don't hear anything from the breeder.
@edhelka ...thanks for the info about Kate... rather disappointing that it's so slow, for a Kordes, they usually take off.... perhaps we should tell dear Kenneth?..
..your roses are beautiful today, as usual.. I'm finding Gabriel Oak the worse for black spot than it's ever been so far for me..
@daboblem , I have pink cloud in a shady position. Bright pink but I like it 😉. It is climber so more stiffer canes - repeats and the flowers stay good for weeks.
Sorry for being very quiet.. it’s been really busy at work and even busier at my allotment plot - to the point I must admit I have not pampered my roses as much as I usually did.. As a result I feel that I’ve not had a good second flush display this year - very scant blooms.. although I find that a few of them seem to bloom better in cooler weather - namely Munstead Wood and lady of shallot.
Regarding DA’s potted roses.. I reckon they must feed them more than weekly? 60cm actually doesn’t feel that large (I have two pots that are 75cm across - though I have got climbers in them instead of shrub) and cramming three roses into one of those pots just surely mean they end up competing for space and nutrients.. but yet their potted displays always look so full, lush and wonderfully floriferous.
Having gardened at an allotment plot this year and being able to grow things in the ground instead of containers I must admit I have lost some faith in container gardening. To me plants just seem to flourish so much better in the ground and require so much less in terms of care. The most important thing however is the fact that they seem to achieve their full potential. I say this with roses in mind, knowing that they naturally require more space to grow (and depth) - and I do wonder how much better my roses would fare had I grown them in the ground instead. I thought of transferring my roses to the plot but then I would prefer to have them in a domestic space where I can enjoy daily.
Anyway.. it’s just a little thought that’s been playing on my mind lately.. and I feel just ever so slightly frustrated that I can’t offer my roses a better environment to grow in.
@celcius_kkw If it makes you feel any better a lot of us have had a rather lacklustre growing season this year. Your containers may pick back up if we get a better year?
I imagine DA are doing all sorts we’d never dream of…like putting three roses in one pot 😜 I wouldn’t be surprised if they liquid fed 3x a week!
I share some of your frustration @celcius_kkw, I can offer my roses pots or rooty, under-tree canopy border next to hedges. The very few good spots I have are now taken by climbing roses for obvious reasons. I know I could create new beds in the middle but that would just be more work, I dream of open beds. So I water and improve the soil in my borders and water and feed my pots, not so very different.
I enjoyed a bit of rose training today. Up till now Bathsheba and GhislainedF have grown as they wished, today they got managedBalcony roses Desdemona, Freifrau Caroline, Pearl Drift and Blue RiverOn the whole the patio roses are doing better now than during the first flush. I prefer to have more varieties than the overfull space-hogging triplets
@celcius_kkw actually my potted roses, especially Desdemona, have performed better than many of my in ground roses! But you’re right generally - potting is just an alternative way to get plants growing in a spot you’d otherwise be unable to. Although they can be very aesthetically pleasing. I couldn’t justify the water wastage of some of these “entirely filled with pots” type gardens when they have access to soil.
What can look great though is when people remove the bottom of the pot, so you get the aesthetic but the plant is actually rooting into the soil beneath.
I remember seeing an astonishing Claire Austin grown that way - absolutely huge climber coming from a tiny 12inch pot, like a genie from a lamp! I thought it was witchcraft until the person explained 😂
Allotments can takeover - this year we’ve done bare minimum there to be honest, just enough to keep it ticking over and not raise complaints! So much hasn’t grown this year and we started so late due to “polytunnelgate” that we didn’t have time to restart things. Ended up having to do major clearing digging in the heat of summer which isn’t the best time! Wildlife pond alone more than worth it though. Our frog seems to be a permanent resident now and I saw mating dragonflies around it last time.
My working days have changed, and our eldest is starting school and youngest old enough for funded nursery hours. So Ill have one day a week - no work, no kids - I’ll use that time over autumn to get some more jobs done at the plot.
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Oh yes I agree they'd look completely oversized in most places. Unless you had a huge stately house entrance or mahoosive garden.
..like from 'The Flower Duet' [Lakme]?.. aka the British Airways advert..
... you have a pretty garden with lots of lovely plants.. I especially like all those tulips and what appear to be Gladioli..
.. thank you for your kind offer re the Indian rose... it's bred by famous Indian breeders the Viraraghavan's from southern India, and it is a warm climate rose that I wanted to grow in my greenhouse... I have contacted them on another site but I've not heard back as yet.
The rose is called 'E.K. Janaki Ammal'.. and I think it's really beautiful but probably unsuited to my climate.. I understand they have it at Kew Gardens.. as EK J. Ammal worked there, a long time ago.. She was a famous Indian botanist..
Thank you again. I will get back to you if I don't hear anything from the breeder.
...thanks for the info about Kate... rather disappointing that it's so slow, for a Kordes, they usually take off.... perhaps we should tell dear Kenneth?..
..your roses are beautiful today, as usual.. I'm finding Gabriel Oak the worse for black spot than it's ever been so far for me..
Sorry for being very quiet.. it’s been really busy at work and even busier at my allotment plot - to the point I must admit I have not pampered my roses as much as I usually did.. As a result I feel that I’ve not had a good second flush display this year - very scant blooms.. although I find that a few of them seem to bloom better in cooler weather - namely Munstead Wood and lady of shallot.
What can look great though is when people remove the bottom of the pot, so you get the aesthetic but the plant is actually rooting into the soil beneath.
I remember seeing an astonishing Claire Austin grown that way - absolutely huge climber coming from a tiny 12inch pot, like a genie from a lamp! I thought it was witchcraft until the person explained 😂
Allotments can takeover - this year we’ve done bare minimum there to be honest, just enough to keep it ticking over and not raise complaints! So much hasn’t grown this year and we started so late due to “polytunnelgate” that we didn’t have time to restart things. Ended up having to do major clearing digging in the heat of summer which isn’t the best time! Wildlife pond alone more than worth it though. Our frog seems to be a permanent resident now and I saw mating dragonflies around it last time.
My working days have changed, and our eldest is starting school and youngest old enough for funded nursery hours. So Ill have one day a week - no work, no kids - I’ll use that time over autumn to get some more jobs done at the plot.