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ROSES - Spring/Summer Season 2021

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  • dabolemdabolem Posts: 180
    Thank you @Nollie, I think I’ll put a yellow or peach rose near PB and maybe some blue Nepeta or Salvia Nemorosa. 
    Anyway, I just decided that I must have a Lady of Shallot, I need it, lol.
    Your TP is gorgeous

    I have to move my M.me Alfred Carriere because where t is now it takes too little sun, just a couple of hours a day, and because the wall behind it is somewhat white and I want a more contrast with it.

    Do you know of a climbing rose, not white, that blooms well even in shadey corners? An maybe repeat blooms? Am I asking for too much?

  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    @dabolem Is the location open to the sky? That helps a lot regarding getting enough light, versus overhanging trees which is no good. How big do you need it to get?
  • dabolemdabolem Posts: 180
    @Omori yes, it is open to the sky. The wall is NW facing, but there are 3 big poplars in front of it, so the sun rays are somehow blocked by them, especially from 3 pm to 5 pm. Not all day long, and not in the winter, luckily, it is a bright shadow, anyway
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    @dabolem New Dawn would do well there, if it isn’t too pale? 
  • dabolemdabolem Posts: 180
    @Omori New Dawn is actually too pale for that wall. I would like something more colourful, because the MAC flowers too don’t stand out with it. Maybe some things red or a very dark pink
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    edited September 2021
    @dabolem Most roses seem to be pale that do well in that aspect, how tall is the wall?  

    Some options…Purple Skyliner, or Gertrude Jekyll would be good if it isn’t a tall wall.  Zephirine Drouhin is another option depending on whether airflow would cause any disease issues. Hopefully someone has more suggestions for you as well. 
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Mme. Alfred Carriere is one of the top roses recommended for a north-facing wall, which is where I have mine @dabolem, but against a dark background, I can see it could be a little lost against a white one. Plenty of ramblers can take a shady position. I have looked at Veilchenblau and Violette for a large shady arch, the purple colour is said to be more pronounced than in the sun. Here are suggestions for shade on the Trevor White site:

    https://www.trevorwhiteroses.co.uk/product-category/rambling-roses/?swoof=1&pa_situation=climbing-roses-for-shade-north-wall&really_curr_tax=28-product_cat
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    Marlorena said:
    ..nice photos from DA, Mr Vine Eye, glad you had a nice time.. although I'm going to say that I think their potted roses are too large and cumbersome looking, they were better earlier.. I would have to cut those back...  I prefer Tack's more compact floriferous potted roses, if I'm honest..
    Yes, @Mr. Vine Eye, nice photos and nice to see the garden in different seasons.

    I like DA pots. But I think they would be out of proportion in most gardens. 60cm pot with three roses in it, that's at least 1.5m of space. I can imagine large pots or urns, framing wide stairs to some mansion... but in normal gardens? We usually use pots because we are out of space.
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