@MuseLea David Austin themselves have said that their roses can be kept in the green pots for up to a year. Not that it is recommended. I suppose if you think about smaller garden centres don't sell off all their roses at the end of the season, so it's entirely possible that they keep their roses in pots for +12 months.
@MuseLea I’ve been keeping my Portland roses in their pot, similar to those of Austin’s, for about 4 months because I couldn’t move the azalea mini hedge in time.
I didn’t even feed them, but their are perfectly good in their spot and bloomed all the same. The important thing, I found, is to keep them well watered.
@Marlorena I fell in love with your “dry border”, it’s gorgeous! Do you think I could reproduce something similar here in my climate? I saved the plants’ name just in case
Thank you all. Very helpful advice, much appreciated. Unusually for the midlands we haven’t had any proper rain here for over 2 months so my 10 year old son has become well trained in watering pots The promised storms keep going round us. A couple of weeks ago there was a huge storm with hail the size of golf balls just 2 miles up the road. It brought down fences! Here, not even a drop of rain. Very weird weather. This last week we’ve had endless grey cloud with no hint of sun. What is the point of grey cloud if it won’t bring the rain? All the street trees are dying because of course nobody is watering them
@Imprevu I have a rose called Astronomia that dropped it’s petals quickly, including newly opened ones in the slightest breeze. It improved a lot in it’s second year, the blooms lasting much longer, so hopefully your Gret’s Joy will do the same 🤞
We had much needed heavy rain here yesterday evening and more promised. Guy Savoy closed it’s petals completely in the rain but this morning opened them again, which is a useful defence mechanism! It’s striped blooms are as pretty from the rear as the front too. Tea rose Mme. Antoine Mari (pictured) drooped under the weight of water but this reveals the deeper colour and attractive form of the underside. Kind of two for the price of one roses!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
..it's not a problem keeping it in the same pot with liquid feeding until the autumn, but what is recommended from then on, is to remove from pot, scape away most of the old compost, and plant as a bare root rose from mid October onwards.. incorporating old compost with backfill.. whilst trying to retain as much of the feeder root system as possible.. ... it will established better treated that way, than transplanted as a pot bound container rose where the roots are twirling around in old compost.. but we all have our own ways of doing things..
...nice garden @MuseLea ... starting from scratch is fun.. are your troughs open to the soil at the base or not ?..
@Tack ..as so often the case, I'm in awe of your potted roses..
@dabolem .. thank you, and for checking out my Dry Garden.. we used to call this the Mediterranean Style of gardening, so I don't see why it shouldn't translate to your region in northern Italy.. I do grow roses in it.. trial and error... one I would totally recommend is called 'Julia Child' / 'Absolutely Fabulous' ... after the first year it excelled in these conditions, without watering.. but it did take a year or so to establish..
.. but essentially the best plants are Lavenders, Sedums and Grasses as you might expect... Stipa gigantea is a must have for me..
@Nollie I am very interested in hearing info about Astronomia! I know a guy who says his Astronomia is totally in shade and still blooms like a mad. Is that true?
@Marlorena I took a look at Julia Child, gorgeous! I just have to think where to put it, she has a very yellow color there’s a thing I didn’t grasp well about the soil of your dry garden: there wasn’t any soil there and you put it or the soil was already there? And what is that soil composition? Thanks.
I grow all my DA roses in pots ranging from 30-70 litres. I have had many of them for quite a few years in the pot. The main thing to ensure is that the pot never goes dry. I feed them during spring with well rotted manure and an occasional feed of BFB. Also prune them quite hard in winter so that they remain compact. HTH for those looking to grow potted shrub roses.
Oxford. The City of Dreaming Spires.
And then my heart with pleasure fills,
And dances with the daffodils (roses). Taking a bit of liberty with Wordsworth
Re. my Dry Garden border... ... 12 years ago, no soil, no worms, just sand, rubble, bricks... the soil was 3 feet below... I removed lots of rubble and bricks and put down compost and soil, so now I have top layer about 1 foot, but still very sandy and thin... water drains right through it very quickly.. I now see worms, not many but some.. very few slugs and snails, they do not like it there.. ...in July/August gets hot, dry and windy.. this is one of the driest parts of England but it's the wind that makes it worse.. grasses can look beautiful...
Roses bred in hotter places seem to do well.. Julia Child and now Wild Blue Yonder.. my best rose 'Mme. Antoine Mari' an old Tea rose is fantastic in these conditions. These are thrifty roses.. Wants to grow big so I keep cutting it back..
Best Austins I've had in this location were'Scarborough Fair', 'Blythe Spirit' 'The Lady's Blush' and 'Lady of Shalott' after many years... single and semi double do best.. I have 'England's Rose' there, it is getting better but taking long time.. 'Mrs Oakley Fisher' grew fast but flowers do not last long..
I had 2 'Octavia Hill' rose bushes, small double blooms, lovely pink rose, but both withered after 5 years and almost died - we had big drought in 2018 for 3 months and I had to water them but did not recover well enough, so I took them out..
Maybe you get more rain than I do ?.. about 1.5 - 2 inches a month..
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@Marlorena I fell in love with your “dry border”, it’s gorgeous! Do you think I could reproduce something similar here in my climate? I saved the plants’ name just in case
We had much needed heavy rain here yesterday evening and more promised. Guy Savoy closed it’s petals completely in the rain but this morning opened them again, which is a useful defence mechanism! It’s striped blooms are as pretty from the rear as the front too. Tea rose Mme. Antoine Mari (pictured) drooped under the weight of water but this reveals the deeper colour and attractive form of the underside. Kind of two for the price of one roses!
... it will established better treated that way, than transplanted as a pot bound container rose where the roots are twirling around in old compost.. but we all have our own ways of doing things..
...nice garden @MuseLea ... starting from scratch is fun.. are your troughs open to the soil at the base or not ?..
..as so often the case, I'm in awe of your potted roses..
@dabolem
.. thank you, and for checking out my Dry Garden.. we used to call this the Mediterranean Style of gardening, so I don't see why it shouldn't translate to your region in northern Italy.. I do grow roses in it.. trial and error... one I would totally recommend is called 'Julia Child' / 'Absolutely Fabulous' ... after the first year it excelled in these conditions, without watering.. but it did take a year or so to establish..
.. but essentially the best plants are Lavenders, Sedums and Grasses as you might expect... Stipa gigantea is a must have for me..
Olivia Rose Austin:
@Marlorena I took a look at Julia Child, gorgeous! I just have to think where to put it, she has a very yellow color
there’s a thing I didn’t grasp well about the soil of your dry garden: there wasn’t any soil there and you put it or the soil was already there? And what is that soil composition? Thanks.
... 12 years ago, no soil, no worms, just sand, rubble, bricks... the soil was 3 feet below...
I removed lots of rubble and bricks and put down compost and soil, so now I have top layer about 1 foot, but still very sandy and thin... water drains right through it very quickly.. I now see worms, not many but some.. very few slugs and snails, they do not like it there..
...in July/August gets hot, dry and windy.. this is one of the driest parts of England but it's the wind that makes it worse.. grasses can look beautiful...
Roses bred in hotter places seem to do well.. Julia Child and now Wild Blue Yonder.. my best rose 'Mme. Antoine Mari' an old Tea rose is fantastic in these conditions. These are thrifty roses.. Wants to grow big so I keep cutting it back..
I had 2 'Octavia Hill' rose bushes, small double blooms, lovely pink rose, but both withered after 5 years and almost died - we had big drought in 2018 for 3 months and I had to water them but did not recover well enough, so I took them out..
Maybe you get more rain than I do ?.. about 1.5 - 2 inches a month..