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The New ROSE Season 2021...

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  • celcius_kkwcelcius_kkw Posts: 753
    edited March 2021
    @Mr. Vine Eye I can totally understand it’s disheartening when it happens - whether it’s born out of carelessness or downright rudeness and people taking it for granted. I suppose one way of dealing with that is to rise above it and think of the number of people who have been grateful after benefiting from your advice.. and to not stop helping the new gardeners out there despite the few bad apples. I think Marlorena has also mentioned this before.. it would seem to me the more experienced one gets and the more people you try to help you’re bound to come across a few bad apples (or shall I say aphids and blackspots in true rose lovers’ terms) - purely by the rule of probability.. 

    @Nollie Your roses are waaaay ahead! They should be in bloom by April at the latest? I’ve read about spraying seaweed as foliar feed before but I’m wondering if they would leave a stain on the foliage? Seeing as seaweed feed has a light brown colour to it?
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    edited March 2021
    @celcius_kkw I use seaweed as a foliar spray (in my case with added iron to help chlorosis) and it never stains. 

    ETA you can also buy seaweed meal as a soil improver if you don’t want to spray. 
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ...beware ''members'' with a post count of 1.. unless they provide photos and appear genuine, otherwise best to be brief ..  
    East Anglia, England
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    edited March 2021
    @celcius_kkw - there are people on the forum that do it all the time!

    @cooldoc2000 - there's nothing wrong with giving a like! That's great because it's an acknowledgment that you've seen it.

    Besides I'm thinking specifically of people who start their own discussion but then never come back to say anything. Literally asked the question and left.

    @Fire - the technology, while shortening attention spans, has also made it incredibly easy and quick to acknowledge that they've seen something, with a quick 'like' or just posting 'thanks for responses'


    I'm not cross about it, just noticed recently it's happening a lot. There's 3 or 4 in the last week or two which is what's brought it to my attention.

    Maybe "find it odd" was more accurate than "find it irritating"
    East Yorkshire
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ...another group I find personally irritating are members with established post counts who ask questions about roses... I offer my advice, and I'm not bragging but I've been 'at it' for a long time therefore usually have something to impart, but then I get totally ignored.. they even acknowledge other members answers - some of which I would disagree with, but not mine.. now I may be on their 'ignore' list, that's fine, but I now make a mental note of these members, so next time I just don't bother getting involved...  

    ..a simple 'like' is good enough for me, I don't  need anything else, and of course not talking about anybody on this thread, but you know.. 

    @Mr. Vine Eye
    ...I have noticed your issues actually, and understand the irritation.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • EustaceEustace Posts: 2,290
    Marlorena said: I have on order 'The Anniversary Rose' [aka 'Line Renaud'.. 'Dee-Lish'] which everyone raves about elsewhere so that will be going in..
    I have this HT rose in a pot; rescued it from the 'hospital' shelf from homebase. Thanks for sharing the keywords to search for more details of this rose 🙏
    Oxford. The City of Dreaming Spires.
    And then my heart with pleasure fills,
    And dances with the daffodils (roses). Taking a bit of liberty with Wordsworth :)

  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @Eustace
    ...how has it performed for you so far?  the scent is what I want it for mostly.. but it's a shrubby hybrid tea, not totally conforming to type, so that makes it more interesting for me, and it has Austin connections as 'Graham Thomas' is close in its lineage..

    @Nollie
    ..your roses are romping ahead, just goes to show how far advanced you are compared to us...   lovely foliage, especially on La Rose du M.. and SW... I'm noticing the prickly nature of that rose..

    As you have a bud on 'Francis Dubreuil'...  here's my plant just to compare, and of course mine is older than yours... 


    1st day of Spring.. No?..  doesn't feel like it out there today..  
    East Anglia, England
  • It's beautiful here in France and the plants are all getting going. Following advice on here last year I bought two white bare root roses and they're looking very healthy and full of life. Very much looking forward to seeing them in bloom. 

    I now have another couple of questions if anyone would be so kind as to offer advice. 

    1) I have a New Dawn rose which up until this year has completely filled a wooden trellis and bloomed prolifically. Sadly, this winter the trellis succumbed to the elements ( I think the rose was the only thing holding it up tbh). With slight alterations to the garden there is not now any space for a new trellis. I am wondering if I can keep the rose supported by the one simple post that is left, and try and keep the rose a bit smaller this year. Will that affect the blooms, obviously there'll be less because it's smaller, but if it just ends up being greenery I'll have to think about moving it? So, I suppose the question is, will New Dawn function as a smaller rose? 

    2) Following alterations to the garden I have 3 other roses that have lost their support/backdrop of a shrub. They're not massive climbers but are above head height. I'd like some kind of metal trellis/obelisk for them, freestanding. Can any one recommend such a thing? I keep finding rose arches when I search, which are not appropriate for this space. I'd rather have metal given my experience with wood rotting away. 

    Thank you in anticipation of any answers. 🙂
    • “Coffee. Garden. Coffee. Does a good morning need anything else?” —Betsy Cañas Garmon
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @D0rdogne_Damsel
    ..you can grow New Dawn as a freestanding rose, if you are prepared for the mounding growth habit and have the space for it... it will develop into a large mound, so you would have to prune to keep in check.  During summer the rose should be just deadheaded, not pruned back as you may lose repeat bloom... prune during winter to reduce the size of the plant..

    ..I use these metal trellis's, perhaps this is something you are looking for ?..
    https://www.primrose.co.uk/french-arch-trellis-with-finials-black-p-114931.html

    ..there are other outlets that sell them, and I have them in 2 different sizes.. they just push into the ground, but if your soil is full of stones as mine is, I have to work at that, somewhat..
    East Anglia, England
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