@Marlorena Thank you.. yes can see what you meant by beauty and beast, would love to hear your recommendations.
@newbie77 Thanks for the info. I do not have JC, was planning to get one. Fragrance and her colour is what I liked. I don't mind arching growth, I hate it more when they appear bare lower down (that's the reason I don't prefer many hybrid teas, cant under-plant with perennials as I am planting my roses in pots). Marlorena's suggestion was Boscobel, similar with fragrance. Could you give more info on your planting location (sun/shade) and any pics of the whole plant, rather than just the flowers? Thank you.
My jubilee celebration is in full sun. I have boscobel too but again it is also only 1 year old, so my feedback is with limited experience. For me boscobel defoliated, but I didn't spray at all so some desease is expected anyway. It's grew well and was not a wimpy like JC. I don't have full plant photo. I wish I had taken photos last year. If you look in helpmefind website, there would be some full plant photos.
The videos like these, (this is another one) suggest that there is one pattern of growth on climbing roses, with a collection of simple, single, main canes coming from the base and simple lateral growth coming off that. Clearly my roses don't watch videos and like a much more anarchic way of being. Punk roses.
Do members on the thread have roses that follow the simple, single cane pattern? Or is it more complicated than that? Thoughts and links appreciated.
Mine don't watch videos either I think every rose is different with a different pattern of growth, and for a young climber, it is better to just let it grow for 2-3 years, without doing much. My Albrighton Rambler behaves like that. But the new climbing canes can grow both from the base or as branches from other canes. The Generous Gardener took two years to produce its first climbing cane (not too long but better than nothing). Clarence House is shrub-like after its first year. Gertrude Jekyll follows the pattern, long canes from the base, laterals from them when trained on an obelisk. Crépuscule is like shrubby tea roses, layering new growth on top of the old growth. I like to photos on HMF, where I can see roses grown on a wall, like photos from the Mottisfont garden. They make it apparent if the rose prefers to grow many canes from the base or if it is the more branching type.
thank you @newbie77 Yeah will do some searching for shrub shots. Boscobel defoliated for me as well, towards the end of the season. I believe it was rust rather than Blackspot.
@edhelka It does seem best to leave climbers to do their thing for a few years before messing about with them (mental note to self). My Dr jamain is growing more like a Christmas tree. I hacked it terribly, trying to follow the methodolgies in the videos. It has one main cane with six main canes coming off it, candelabra fashion. Ho hum, we live and learn. The Dr lived to tell the tale. For that kind of thing, it's so much easier to have someone experienced on hand in the garden to give tips, than to take guess work from videos. With fruit tree pruning too.
That is exciting @REN_AmateurG . I hope it does well for you. I look forward to progress pictures.
@Mr. Vine Eye Did the polytunnel reappear unheralded on your plot? I too had imagined a different scale! no wonder you didn't just pick it up and put it back.
@Fire I have 9 climbers and no 2 look similar. They are all young and I have decided on a mainly hands-off approach to let their inner selves become known to me. But I'm keeping a stern eye on The Generous Gardener, that one takes liberties.
@Fire - agree, I was feeling very anxious when starting to prune tree for espaliering when I first got it because it didn’t arrive how I expected based on guides online. In the end I just had to go with what seemed right from 0 experience and hope for the best!
Thats why it’s nice when I can advise people on here.
My Generous Gardener tiers are almost entirely coming off one cane.
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..it's also larger than I thought, so worth the trouble..
I don't have full plant photo. I wish I had taken photos last year.
If you look in helpmefind website, there would be some full plant photos.
My Albrighton Rambler behaves like that. But the new climbing canes can grow both from the base or as branches from other canes.
The Generous Gardener took two years to produce its first climbing cane (not too long but better than nothing).
Clarence House is shrub-like after its first year.
Gertrude Jekyll follows the pattern, long canes from the base, laterals from them when trained on an obelisk.
Crépuscule is like shrubby tea roses, layering new growth on top of the old growth.
I like to photos on HMF, where I can see roses grown on a wall, like photos from the Mottisfont garden. They make it apparent if the rose prefers to grow many canes from the base or if it is the more branching type.
Thats why it’s nice when I can advise people on here.