@cooldoc2000 ...I've not grown that rose but from what I've seen of it, it seems to have a naturally bushy growth habit so you may not have to worry too much about that, but if you have lots of canes to work with, you can always reduce a couple quite short, to layer the growth, but this rose may not need that treatment..
..no, I don't think there will be any more releases unless they are holding one back for the Chelsea Show in September.. but I doubt it.. they probably can't cope with more than one at the moment and just wouldn't have the stock available, so it's reported..
I recommend 'Boscobel' for a pot, if you want a similar rose with a strong scent..
@Marran ...sounds like a good location for your rose, which incidentally should develop into a mostly thornless rose, with some bristly prickles at the base of shoots.. apparently the flowers don't always open fully, but remain cup shaped, somewhat crinkled.. it is also best grown on its own roots, and I suspect it may be propagated that way rather than grafted... some of the wild specie types of that class do not lend themselves to budding..
A similar rose that grows in a garden near me is R xanthina 'Canary Bird' which is massive and the first rose I notice in bloom in Spring..
I do have Boscobel, just that the new Austin (2021) was a let down for me and I have to quench that itch badly But I guess it never really does, we always look for reasons to get new ones. Was set on getting Blush Noisette, held back due to its size. Eyeing the 'Souvenir de la Malmaison' as I want a bourbon. It balls badly in our rains isn't it?
@cooldoc2000 ...there are better Bourbon's for general garden use here, I could name at least 4 others, however Souvenir de la Malmaison is like the beauty and the beast... it's better from July - Sept, than it is during May/June..
..here's the beauty [grown under glass] ..and the beast.. outside.. ..this is an August bloom, outside, after heavy rain..
I wondered to ask the rose hive mind for their reflections. In previous years I had watched videos like this one recommended widely on this forum. It's a clear video, but my climbers don't do anything of the sort. This is why I was getting confused ( @Mr. Vine Eye ). The videos like these, (this is another one) suggest that there is one pattern of growth on climbing roses, with a collection of simple, single, main canes coming from the base and simple lateral growth coming off that. Clearly my roses don't watch videos and like a much more anarchic way of being. Punk roses.
Do members on the thread have roses that follow the simple, single cane pattern? Or is it more complicated than that? Thoughts and links appreciated.
@cooldoc2000, I haven't read all posts properly. Do you already have jubilee celebration or are you looking to buy one? I planted one last year. It is a bit slow growing as compared to say Desdemona or Olivia rose, but flowers are very beautiful and fragrance is good. It sometimes have dusky pink colour. It's stems are floppy and I have given it support. I am hoping it will improve with time.
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...I've not grown that rose but from what I've seen of it, it seems to have a naturally bushy growth habit so you may not have to worry too much about that, but if you have lots of canes to work with, you can always reduce a couple quite short, to layer the growth, but this rose may not need that treatment..
..no, I don't think there will be any more releases unless they are holding one back for the Chelsea Show in September.. but I doubt it.. they probably can't cope with more than one at the moment and just wouldn't have the stock available, so it's reported..
I recommend 'Boscobel' for a pot, if you want a similar rose with a strong scent..
...no idea what happened there but looking forward to more pictures of your mystery rose...
...sounds like a good location for your rose, which incidentally should develop into a mostly thornless rose, with some bristly prickles at the base of shoots.. apparently the flowers don't always open fully, but remain cup shaped, somewhat crinkled.. it is also best grown on its own roots, and I suspect it may be propagated that way rather than grafted... some of the wild specie types of that class do not lend themselves to budding..
A similar rose that grows in a garden near me is R xanthina 'Canary Bird' which is massive and the first rose I notice in bloom in Spring..
...there are better Bourbon's for general garden use here, I could name at least 4 others, however Souvenir de la Malmaison is like the beauty and the beast... it's better from July - Sept, than it is during May/June..
..here's the beauty [grown under glass]
..and the beast.. outside..
..this is an August bloom, outside, after heavy rain..
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I planted one last year. It is a bit slow growing as compared to say Desdemona or Olivia rose, but flowers are very beautiful and fragrance is good. It sometimes have dusky pink colour. It's stems are floppy and I have given it support. I am hoping it will improve with time.