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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    How is the split? What i mean is how many beds would normally be taken up at this time year with all respiratory type illnesses and how are the other admissions doing (ie flu)?


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  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    I can't tell you that [ not that it is a secret ] it is only the figure For COVID. I don't know the current numbers for flu, but i know they are higher than average.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • debs64debs64 Posts: 5,184
    Wasn’t there some talk of sacking NHS staff who were unvaccinated? Did that happen? 
    It seems fairly obvious that the NHS is breathing it’s last breath I don’t think covid is the only reason for the terrible problems it is facing. Maybe successive governments underfunding it for years May be a factor? 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Successive governments pandering to a selfish electorate by promising that we can have more by paying less. :'(

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Ok - what I was trying to get to is 'Was 11,500 expected' IE if the NHS expect 100,000 beds to be taken up with respiratory stuff and ALL respiratopry is taking up 88,000 of which Covid is 11,500 then is that bad? It's the provisional to actual that makes the difference isn't it?
    This article from the BBC gives partial info. It says that potentially half the beds may be used up, without saying how many are allocated (presumably beds are allocated to expected patterns - ie surgical/non surgical beds and the non surgical then allocated to expected seasonal patterns)

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  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    edited January 2023
    Sadly, bed occupancy is running at about 96% and extra beds cannot be opened without staff, or the physical space, neither of which are available.
    Therefore the 11,500 is really quite bad.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    @Simone_in_Wiltshire, you say you are vaccinated, but also say you did not have the 4th. dose.
    Immunity decreases with time, after 8 months immunity will have dropped to about 60%. This is why we have boosters, and the vaccine will change, if there is a change in the virus.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Still don't understand. Obviously any use of 'unexpected' beds is bad. Fine. but if typically we have (this is just an eg) 20,000 beds provisional for flu (and other respiratory illnesses) and we're only using 5,000 then 11,500 covid beds is still under the provision. I'm not sure I follow how anyone could know whether 11,500 is good or bad without context - as your 96% occupancy could also be made up by 50,000 flu beds couldn't it? And what is the expected occupancy at this time of year anyway - <90%? >95%?..isn't that figure  also a bit meaningless in isolation? IE what would be a safe occupancy level be? This article seems to say that 95% isn't now unusual.


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  • Not Covid related but still concerning vaccines.  I recently received 2 letters from my local GP saying I was eligible for 1 for pneumonia and 1 for shingles.  This is the first time I have been offered these and was wondering what made me eligible as such ?  Is it simply age related ( over 70 ) ? Odd tho as OH ( over 80 ) wasn't offered them. When I called to book the appointments, I did ask but the receptionist didn't really know and was obviously busy anyway.
    Anyone know ?

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