@edhelka .. nice to see the whole plant shots... such healthy roses !.. @Hexagon … yes you can do that.. I often do late autumn, but not all buds will open indoors... so trial and error...
@Nollie From several combined sources (HMF, Facebook groups, other forums), I think that list is correct (and yes, I am obsessed ). I would love Princess Anne.
I am OK with having some disease resistant roses and some a bit more challenging but with other qualities. It would be boring to have Kordes-only garden but it would be heart-breaking to have too many roses looking sickly.
Re our minivacation, we were in Lleida, Mont Rebei gorge and spent an afternoon in Barcelona. I really liked the cathedral and fortress in Lleida - almost no tourists there and interesting history and atmosphere. I enjoy similar, less known and less touristy places.
I wish mine were as healthy as yours @edhelka! Most of mine have got blackspot now. In bloom now (despite the rain) New Dawn, Penelope, Claire Austin, Royal William and Happy Birthday, with just one or two on Gertrude Jekyll, Little White Pet, Zepherine Douhrin and Eglantyne.
I have ordered 5 cheap, bare root 'English roses' in 5 different colours so might follow your suggestion @Marlorena of planting in big tubs until next August so I can see the precise colours (they are unnamed).
@Marlorena I don’t have any in mind but have several already like iceberg, Danse de feu, compassion, golden showers and Madame Alfred carriere so want a few different ones this time!!
And aloha looks like a great option especially in the middle of the area around the window!!
i always feel like climbers take a while to get settled ‘as my others haven’t and their about 3 years old’ so want to make a good choice straight away!!
Thanks very much for the warning re Diamant being thorny @Marlorena, much appreciated! I really like the look of it though, so could probably put up with that in a small shrub/floribunda rose. However, I did rule out Kordes Laguna on that basis, as I don’t want to be training a large climber with hideous thorns.
Glad you enjoyed Lleida @edhelka, it is really rather majestic and wild - went on a fabulous birdwatching holiday there a couple of years ago.
Back to roses, of course, the other disadvantage of being too weather tolerant/health-obsessed is the lack of scent in most modern, disease-resistant roses. So for the sake of OH’s more sensitive nose, a few compromises will have to be made...
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
RD Braithwaite has surprised me with a late flush:
A tale of two roses in the same bed...
Lady Emma Hamilton, despite some horrible-coloured blooms, at least flowered consistently throughout the hot summer, but recently got severe blackspot and lost all her leaves, virtually overnight:
Whereas Julia Child hasn’t stopped and is only now beginning to succumb to blackspot:
Sorry I keep posting pics of this one, I’m just thrilled to have a (mostly) healthy rose that I really like! The blackspot is may well be my fault as I have planted her too close to the rapidly expanding Euphorbia Mellifera in the background.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
The blackspot is may well be my fault as I have planted her too close to the rapidly expanding Euphorbia Mellifera in the background.
Interesting. How do people cope with planting a rose in a mixed border without spraying. Asking as We planted a CPM, which is supposedly disease resistant, in midst of lavender and a dwarf rosemary and got nasty rust! Where as another specimen thats on its own was unfazed!
I don’t know about rust (haven’t experienced that - yet!) @Alchemist but the key is in the phrase ‘disease resistant’, as no rose is totally disease proof and all succumb to something or other in the end. Some are just better than others, but you need to help it resist, so far this is what I have gathered, mostly from advice from other rose growers on this forum) and try to do:
- keep the ground below and around clear of encroaching plants and overhanging stuff that will drip on and crowd out the rose, which reduces airflow around the plant and encourages disease - mulch all around the base and keep the mulch scruffled up (not flattened to a pancake by watering) so water does not bounce off the underside of the plant and wet the leaves - only water at the roots and water deeply, again, to avoid getting water on the foliage - soon as you see any diseased leaves, pick them off and clear up any fallen leaves around the base, dispose of in the rubbish, not the compost heap - a fresh mulch of compost after clearing up helps to keep the ground clean - feed a good quality rose feed in spring and early summer, maybe again in early autumn, as a well-fed and watered plant is less likely to get diseases - if its suffering during the flowering season, a pick-me-of of seaweed or tomato feed helps, watch out for chlorosis as well if you have hard water
- during the annual prune, cut out any dead, diseased or crossing branches and thin the middle of the plant if needed to keep an open vase shape - airflow again
I am sure others with more experience than me can chip in re rust etc., plus some use organic sprays such as a weak solution of neem oil.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Daniel Rutherford, I also have Danse de Feu, which grows up and around our patio windows, Golden Showers and Madame Alfred Carriere, which is stunning, but may not be in the best spot growing on our garage wall! These are also some favourites of mine, bought as they have the names of my daughter and granddaughter - ‘ New Dawn’ and Rosa ‘Meg’. The others are ‘Alan Titmarsh’ and ‘For your Eyes Only’.
What puzzles me is some of the pictures posted in this forum seems to break the rules, particularly around being planted too close for airflow, but still remain healthy. So I was wondering if there is a trick (E.g. letting rose establish and planting companion plants close etc) or just blind luck.
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@Hexagon … yes you can do that.. I often do late autumn, but not all buds will open indoors... so trial and error...
In bloom now (despite the rain) New Dawn, Penelope, Claire Austin, Royal William and Happy Birthday, with just one or two on Gertrude Jekyll, Little White Pet, Zepherine Douhrin and Eglantyne.
I have ordered 5 cheap, bare root 'English roses' in 5 different colours so might follow your suggestion @Marlorena of planting in big tubs until next August so I can see the precise colours (they are unnamed).
And aloha looks like a great option especially in the middle of the area around the window!!
i always feel like climbers take a while to get settled ‘as my others haven’t and their about 3 years old’ so want to make a good choice straight away!!
Glad you enjoyed Lleida @edhelka, it is really rather majestic and wild - went on a fabulous birdwatching holiday there a couple of years ago.
Back to roses, of course, the other disadvantage of being too weather tolerant/health-obsessed is the lack of scent in most modern, disease-resistant roses. So for the sake of OH’s more sensitive nose, a few compromises will have to be made...
A tale of two roses in the same bed...
Lady Emma Hamilton, despite some horrible-coloured blooms, at least flowered consistently throughout the hot summer, but recently got severe blackspot and lost all her leaves, virtually overnight:
Whereas Julia Child hasn’t stopped and is only now beginning to succumb to blackspot:
Sorry I keep posting pics of this one, I’m just thrilled to have a (mostly) healthy rose that I really like! The blackspot is may well be my fault as I have planted her too close to the rapidly expanding Euphorbia Mellifera in the background.
- keep the ground below and around clear of encroaching plants and overhanging stuff that will drip on and crowd out the rose, which reduces airflow around the plant and encourages disease
- mulch all around the base and keep the mulch scruffled up (not flattened to a pancake by watering) so water does not bounce off the underside of the plant and wet the leaves
- only water at the roots and water deeply, again, to avoid getting water on the foliage
- soon as you see any diseased leaves, pick them off and clear up any fallen leaves around the base, dispose of in the rubbish, not the compost heap
- a fresh mulch of compost after clearing up helps to keep the ground clean
- feed a good quality rose feed in spring and early summer, maybe again in early autumn, as a well-fed and watered plant is less likely to get diseases
- if its suffering during the flowering season, a pick-me-of of seaweed or tomato feed helps, watch out for chlorosis as well if you have hard water
I am sure others with more experience than me can chip in re rust etc., plus some use organic sprays such as a weak solution of neem oil.
What puzzles me is some of the pictures posted in this forum seems to break the rules, particularly around being planted too close for airflow, but still remain healthy. So I was wondering if there is a trick (E.g. letting rose establish and planting companion plants close etc) or just blind luck.