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..the ROSE Season...2019...

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  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @Jason-3 Yes, Gertrude has an awesome fragrance. But honestly, I think I wouldn't keep her if she weren't so fragrant.
  • Jason-3Jason-3 Posts: 391
    edited June 2019
    Im guessing its the straggly growth you don't like.. It does benefit from support. The flowers are excuisite imo
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @Jason-3 It's for several reasons. First is my personal preference, I don't like her in official photos and of course, my reality is worse. But the main reason is that it doesn't do well for me (North Wales, coastal, wet and windy, sandy soil). Last year it was significantly weakened by drought and blackspot. All roses got manure, mulch, feeding and a lot of TLC since then, most of them are responding well and putting on a lot of new growth. But not GJ. I think deep in its genes, it is fundamentally still an old, once flowering rose (it also repeats badly). So it has half of its leaves damaged by wind, the other half by aphids, it is a small plant (50x40cm, really not more and only two okish canes), but it puts all its energy into the first flush (11 buds! on a plant so small and weak!). I want new leaves and most importantly new basal growth but this rose wants to flower first. I guess growing is planned for later but by then, it will be blackspot season and it will get diseased again. And year by year, it gets weaker. I still hope it will get better later in the season but at this point, it is a really ugly looking plant.
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  • @Nollie

    this is the Darcey Bussell flower which had a bud inside and the pics show the bud that opened although it’s already half dead



    I seem to to have a similar occurrence with a port sunlight flower-


  • Hi @Marlorena I have a rose but don’t know the name!
    i got it off my grandad a few years ago but he was unsure as well so just wondered if u had any idea?


  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    @Mr. Vine Eye, all that lovely anticipation, it will be well worth the wait!

    @edhelka, sounds as if you and I need to start a rose blackspot/climate commiseration society ☹️ 

    Over here in Catalunya, my first flush is over in my main border, with just a few blooms hanging on. Warm Welcome is the exception, the only one that seems to be continuous blooming and holds on to it’s orange colour reasonably well. In another border, Julia Child is looking fab and looks like she might be a continuous bloomer, fingers crossed! The Austins are much more erratic, blooms paler and proving much more challenging to grow as time goes on. Reds go pink, mostly, this is Munstead Wood, would you believe:


    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @Daniel Rutherford    hi Daniel... thanks for those really useful photos... it's the way all rose i.d. requests should be shown, although some fully open blooms are usually a requirement... however, in your case it looks like the rose is wanting to climb... so it's 'Handel'... a popular climbing rose...
    East Anglia, England
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @Nollie I think you have it worse, being in a warm and humid climate. Here it is cold and humid. So far it has been too cold for blackspot, so even though we had almost two weeks of rain, the temperature has been between 13 and 16°C.
    For this reason, I am still nowhere near the full flush. It's still first blooms.
    This one (no ID) looks like it could be a friend with your specimen :smile:
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