My house and many terraces are built out of the same sandstone I am digging up. The newly unearthed stone is fairly soft though, hasn’t quite solidified, bits break off easily - geology in action. We also have towering granite sierras, dark volcanic rock and a light purple-brown pumice is mined locally that is excellent for keeping the snails off the dahlias.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Monsters above ground and monsters under the ground...
James planted on top of a retention wall, I think it is a good place for a smaller rose like this, so we can see and smell the blooms. One big stone only (but a huge one), fairly easy digging, but it's cold and everything's wet and the soil is saturated with water... I would take the hibernation now but still have garden jobs to do.
@Mr. Vine Eye oh well done... fast worker we have here... I hope it's the right one, although the imposter is good too... these are wonderful plants.. and late June to October at least more like...
@Nollie … I know what you mean... I used to garden over a bedrock of granite.. like decomposing China Clay...
I'm trying to get motivated to go out this morning and start prepping 5 pots ready for my bare root roses I'm hoping will be delivered very soon but it's damp and cold outside!
Alan T says outside on the shady side, Peter Beales says inside and let the canes poke through. David Austin are silent on the matter. What do you do?
The rose in question is La Rose de Molinard, which is not strictly a climber but I believe can be grew as one. The winding around the outside method suggests it would be better outside and would encourage more blooms, but would this work with this rose?
I have seen some good photos on helpmefind with it as a large, free shrub, but one member says she is training hers as a climber but doesn’t say how, against a trellis/wall or in/out an obelisk etc.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Nollie ...having done both I can tell you that Alan Titchmarsh is correct... always plant outside... on the shady side is a good suggestion but I wouldn't be too concerned with that, but for one very simple reason.... if you tire of the rose, and we may all do that rather quickly... trying to remove it from inside an obelisk can be quite a pain.. especially if the obelisk is deeply planted as I have to do with mine, otherwise they wobble about... ...with a quality large obelisk some people might also cement it in...
...so always think about what you would do if you have a change of heart about the rose and how you would get it out.... much easier if it's outside... ...and another very good reason is that... with a decent obelisk, fairly sturdy and tall, say 6 foot above ground... you can always plant another rose on the opposite side... you just lean the roses towards the support... rather like leaning on a lamp post.... no need to make it too complicated with twisting and turning... and just let them mingle..
...whilst I wouldn't recommend this, I've even had 3 roses around an obelisk... it gets complicated then... but 2 is good and shouldn't be considered a problem...
Good old Alan T, outside the obelisk it is then @Marlorena, thanks! Good points also about having to untangle it if I don’t like it or it doesn’t like my climate. Now you have got me thinking about what other rose I could buy to twin with Rose de Molinard I like the idea of something darker, I nearly ordered Princess Sybilla de Luxembourg, what do you think of that pairing?
Next challenge will be finding a company to ship an obelisk to me. I had my eye on a good, sturdy-looking one that @Voyagerxp bought, from Gap Garden Products, but they won’t ship here. I would have to persuade my SIL to put it in the back of her camper van next time they come over. How has the Gap one turned out in use, Voyager?
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Nollie aah ok... I was going to say I hadn't heard of that Princesse rose but I see it's aka 'Stormy Weather'.. which I've heard of... lovely colour.. similar to Wild Rover at its best... ...I was going to recommend a purple to you as well, but now there is no need.... my choice here as a companion would have been 'Reine des Violettes' but it may not suit your location.. ..you know, whenever I look up something on HMF whose photos keep appearing? Marina Parr's when she lived in Virginia... she had nearly every rose imaginable... I've bought roses because of her recommendations on there... she always put up such great photos too... she's downsized and moved to Florida now..
...as soon as I looked up this one, up popped Marina's...
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My house and many terraces are built out of the same sandstone I am digging up. The newly unearthed stone is fairly soft though, hasn’t quite solidified, bits break off easily - geology in action. We also have towering granite sierras, dark volcanic rock and a light purple-brown pumice is mined locally that is excellent for keeping the snails off the dahlias.
That's the voucher spent! Flower is more blue in real life, didn't come out on my phone camera.
@Nollie … I know what you mean... I used to garden over a bedrock of granite.. like decomposing China Clay...
Alan T says outside on the shady side, Peter Beales says inside and let the canes poke through. David Austin are silent on the matter. What do you do?
The rose in question is La Rose de Molinard, which is not strictly a climber but I believe can be grew as one. The winding around the outside method suggests it would be better outside and would encourage more blooms, but would this work with this rose?
I have seen some good photos on helpmefind with it as a large, free shrub, but one member says she is training hers as a climber but doesn’t say how, against a trellis/wall or in/out an obelisk etc.
...with a quality large obelisk some people might also cement it in...
...so always think about what you would do if you have a change of heart about the rose and how you would get it out.... much easier if it's outside...
...and another very good reason is that... with a decent obelisk, fairly sturdy and tall, say 6 foot above ground... you can always plant another rose on the opposite side... you just lean the roses towards the support... rather like leaning on a lamp post.... no need to make it too complicated with twisting and turning... and just let them mingle..
...whilst I wouldn't recommend this, I've even had 3 roses around an obelisk... it gets complicated then... but 2 is good and shouldn't be considered a problem...
Next challenge will be finding a company to ship an obelisk to me. I had my eye on a good, sturdy-looking one that @Voyagerxp bought, from Gap Garden Products, but they won’t ship here. I would have to persuade my SIL to put it in the back of her camper van next time they come over. How has the Gap one turned out in use, Voyager?
...I was going to recommend a purple to you as well, but now there is no need.... my choice here as a companion would have been 'Reine des Violettes' but it may not suit your location..
..you know, whenever I look up something on HMF whose photos keep appearing? Marina Parr's when she lived in Virginia... she had nearly every rose imaginable... I've bought roses because of her recommendations on there... she always put up such great photos too... she's downsized and moved to Florida now..
...as soon as I looked up this one, up popped Marina's...