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..the ROSE Season...2019...

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @edhelka.. yes it'll be fun to see how they all go... I usually get rose replant sickness on a few of mine, so yours will probably take off before mine do...   the Commandant is quite a thorny brute...  I hate to root prune Trevor's roses because they are so large but I had to do it with this one... and Sally Holmes was simply ginormous... I had to push the thing down, I could hardly dig a hole big enough.. I got them all planted today... I did intend to pot some up but when you see those roots !... 

    ...can't wait for next March... I want the new Austin's already... [Mr Vine Eye better not read this ...]...
    East Anglia, England
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    edited November 2019
    It's quite possible I will have problems with the rose replant sickness too, I am moving 6 roses and planting different ones in the same spot or very close... I still try to change as much soil as I can but it's getting hard to do. Luckily I still have some vegetable beds so I can dig out soil from the rose spots and toss it to the vegetable bed and get some nice soil (manured heavily last spring) from there but it's a bit crazy. My neighbour has a conservatory from where she can see both my front and back garden and she has to think I am crazy, moving buckets of soil between the gardens all the time :D Also, some roses will get better spots and some will get more challenging ones. I am sure this will be the case in your garden too.
    I took these photos several days ago when planting the roses from TCL. This is what I am battling here. I think I have to be crazy doing this. Luckily it's not that bad everywhere.

  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @edhelka ...tell me about it..  I get all that... loads of stones, house bricks, … actually your soil isn't too bad, just a bit rooty there... I'd be wanting to fork over that a bit I think...
    ...oh my neighbours are all used to seeing my goings on... if they're not gardeners then they don't understand at all, they just see it as a huge problem they would rather not have too much... although most of them around here do garden, but nothing like the extent I do..  I often get comments like ''still at it?''... or ''you keep changing everything''... lol...  
    East Anglia, England
  • Great suggestions, thank you.

    I also have tricky soil - get below 20cm and it’s hard clay with fist sized rocks and bricks have to get the mattock out for rose planting, a spade or fork won’t cut it.

    But they seem happy growing in it. One problem I’ve got now is that I swapped fresh soil with a transplanted rose’s in one of the areas where I’m now planning to plant a rose!  So I’ll have to do some more shuffling.

    I hope the new DA roses are rubbish and not at all enticing! 😉
    East Yorkshire
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    edited November 2019


    @Marlorena - have you found that?

    Say they last 3-4 days but better than Royal Jubilee? But the blooms on my Royal Jubilee have been the longest lasting of any of the roses in my garden. They last at least a week, some have been more like two weeks. Maybe that’s down to positioning and the fact mine’s tied in to support.

    I cut one flower that had already been open a few days, brought it in for a vase and it lasted on the dining room table nearly a full week from then before petals fell.
    East Yorkshire
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @Mr. Vine Eye .... they make the fatal mistake of reviewing Austins when they've only had the plant for one season... no full review should be given until you've had it 3 years... so their reviews should be taken with caution... and as far as RJ is concerned... total rubbish...
    ....I've no idea how long Gabriels blooms last,... I used to keep cutting them off and walking around the garden with them...  3-4 days is fine with me... I should think a little longer when the rose is fully grown...  lots of rose blooms only last a few days....so we shouldn't let that put us off...  where I did agree with them was on the rose 'Imogen'... the blooms do shatter all too quickly for such a pretty rose...
    East Anglia, England
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    .well I can raise you 16 wheelbarrows of smaller stones, turfs and roots plus this amount of larger rocks...


    ...Out of this trench:


    Which is 90cmx3.5m up to the bags of manure. This is about a third of the area of my new rose bed, which has taken me 5 days so far to dig. Why is it that the amount of rocks coming out seems to be at least twice the volume of the space they come out of? A mathematical mystery!

    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • @Nollie,you could make a nice raised bed with those lovely rocks ..
  • Yes I was thinking wall too @TinyGardenGIrl 😁
  • Wow what nice plants never tried Trevor white. Will give them a go. Any one have any experience with pocock roses. They have some nice videos on u-tube and have a rating system on their web which seems helpful. 

    Nollie, think you have unearthed a old Roman site....That must have been the foundation!
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