@Busy-Lizzie... more swoon worthies... does your Charles de Mills sucker much ? did you buy it from a British nursery?.. I was just wondering, as it can sucker a lot in some places..
Charles de Mills was bought in France in the early 1990s. For several years she didn't sucker at all, but my first husband dealt with the pruning, so maybe I didn't notice. He died in '98 and I was depressed so I'm afraid I neglected the roses for a few years. Charles de Mills started suckering and now is more like a short hedge than a bush. Does it matter? I don't really know what to do about it. I just cut off the bits that get in the way of other plants. They all flower anyway.
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@Busy-Lizzie.. aah ok.. thanks.. from what I gather if left to its own devices it will form quite a thicket, but as long as you are comfortable with it... I did wonder where you got it, as over here, maybe due to different rootstock used, I've not heard of it suckering so much but Peter Beales told me that the suckering is sometimes mistaken and that it spreads by layering itself...canes flopping to the ground and rooting along.. another of its propensities it seems..
I was advised, should I plant it, to place the graft union above the soil line rather than the usual method of below... so it can't form its own roots..
I planted (and then moved) this Arthur Bell 18 months ago as it didn't seem to like where it was. So I gave it more room in this spot and it romped away. Just gave it a light trim in spring as I wanted it to cover the wall.This year lots of buds and getting bushy, but suddenly this has happened. All the limbs are drooping. Are the roses too heavy, should this rose be trained. Up till now its needed no help so should I put wires on the wall and tie it up as its supposed to be a bush? Sorry for the poor pictures.
Oh no, I think I just accidentally ‘liked’ your post @Lizzie27 , Aagh, if so, please discount that @Daniel Haynes in the beauty contest, can’t bear the concept.
I do like your roses Lizzie, but regarding not being able to label them, I find I can’t do that if I select and load them all at once, so I have to load them individually, insert backspaces between and put an x marks the spot in that space then add the label there later. A bit cumbersome...
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@Lizzie27 … all your lovely roses are gorgeous.. I especially like 'Penelope'.. @purplerallim .. that's a nice wall and your roses are doing fine.. just young roses with heavy blooms... it's actually quite graceful when they do this, but not great when you have grass in front though, as it makes mowing awkward.. ... you will need something on the wall..like wires.. to train the rose eventually...
I'm glad it will be ok, never had a rose do this before @Marlorena As it is a bush just thought pop it in and keep to size/shape by pruning, grass is away from the base so mowing was fine. Will get hubby to put up wire to give it support . 🙂
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Thank you @Marlorena
Charles de Mills was bought in France in the early 1990s. For several years she didn't sucker at all, but my first husband dealt with the pruning, so maybe I didn't notice. He died in '98 and I was depressed so I'm afraid I neglected the roses for a few years. Charles de Mills started suckering and now is more like a short hedge than a bush. Does it matter? I don't really know what to do about it. I just cut off the bits that get in the way of other plants. They all flower anyway.
I was advised, should I plant it, to place the graft union above the soil line rather than the usual method of below... so it can't form its own roots..
2. Happy Birthday
3. Isaphan
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5. Winchester Cathedral
Don't know why I can't label the roses as they appear?
I do like your roses Lizzie, but regarding not being able to label them, I find I can’t do that if I select and load them all at once, so I have to load them individually, insert backspaces between and put an x marks the spot in that space then add the label there later. A bit cumbersome...
@purplerallim .. that's a nice wall and your roses are doing fine.. just young roses with heavy blooms... it's actually quite graceful when they do this, but not great when you have grass in front though, as it makes mowing awkward..
... you will need something on the wall..like wires.. to train the rose eventually...