It seems that for only the second time in the history of this country, we're about to have a sitting PM booted out of office by her own party. On both occasions the tory party. So much for " no more nasty party" Lord Hesletine ( hardy a loony lefty ) has said " what's wrong the conservative party that when they want a new song have to get rid of the singer?"
It couldn't be that the singers are out of tune? As for the rest of them - on all sides - they seem delusional and narcissistic and utterly out of touch with ordinary lives and the worries, concerns, needs and desires of ordinary people. Hopeless.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
It seems though that that too many of them are stuck in the 19th century, they think that if we wave our fists & shout loud enough that "Johnny foreigner" will accede to our demands.
These are not isolated cases. Plenty more across the UK as well as investments in universities and scientific collaborations.
Seems to me there's been plenty of give from the EU which British politicians and national papers happily swept under the carpet and ignored when they urged people to vote out without having any plan or notion about how to manage Brexit and rstructure education and resources to cope with all that would be lost.
No-one should be surprised that the EU now turns itself to protecting the economies and security of the remaining members.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
I said when the outcome was announced " Cue 27 countries to form an orderly queue to give us a good kicking" and why should one single country give us a good deal? it is we who have chosen to leave. If you're the member of a sports centre and leave , do you go to reception and ask if it's ok to use the pool? or the gym? or the exercise classes? Cornwall received more EU money than any other county and still they voted leave. Bizarrely the day following the result folk were interviewed about the outcome and were saying " but we'll still get our subsidies won't we? " You couldn't make this stuff up.
and why should one single country give us a good deal? it is we who have chosen to leave.
I suppose because we risk causing serious damage to some of the countries still in the EU by our actions - Ireland, especially. I think that's why they will try to get us to some deal, rather than crashing out. However tempted they may be to let us lie in the bed we've made, they will want to try to limit the harm we do to the remaining members.
From where I sit, up here on the fence where most private businesses are, I can't chose who to be most angry with between the self interested, self aggrandising MPs who have never got used the diminution of their influence that results from membership of the EU, and the mendacious behaviour of the one industry currently profiting from all of this - the news media. They are all indulging themselves in the heady drink of being the centre of attention and the rest of us, apparently, can just go hang while they have their fun.
'Take back control'? 'Give back control', more like, to the media millionaires who are despised in most of the EU and attention seeking UK politicians who live their lives in a public funded bubble.
Bah humbug
The only politician I have cheered in the last 2 weeks was the one on the radio talking about the terrible situation in Yemen - I think it was Alistair Burt - who was asked about Brexit at the end of his piece and said words to the effect "It's a trade negotiation between first world countries and it'll get sorted eventually. There are far more important things going on in the world".
Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
I have spent my whole life having a keen interest in politics and always been sure of what I believed, now I am utterly clueless about what is going on and what should happen. I do know that I feel genuinely scared about the future. I need GIN.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
It is worrying isn't it Pdoc. Nobody talking any sense.
RG - well said but let us not forget that even in first world countries there are poor and disadvangated people being badly neglected while all this hoo-hah carries on and others who fear for their jobs, incomes and thus homes and futures. Not as desperate as Yemen or modern slavery/people trafficking/human rights abuses in Russia/China/Korea/Middle East/USA/Trump shenanigans but still devastating for those concerned who are also human beings who deserve better from their government and their press.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
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So much for " no more nasty party"
Lord Hesletine ( hardy a loony lefty ) has said " what's wrong the conservative party that when they want a new song have to get rid of the singer?"
Wales benefits from the EU Structural Fund - https://gov.wales/funding/eu-funds/2014-2020/?lang=en . Cornwall receives millions from the EU Regional Development Fund - http://www.cornwallislesofscillygrowthprogramme.org.uk/fund/erdf/ County Durham is also set to benefit from the EU structural fund - http://www.cornwallislesofscillygrowthprogramme.org.uk/fund/erdf/
These are not isolated cases. Plenty more across the UK as well as investments in universities and scientific collaborations.
Seems to me there's been plenty of give from the EU which British politicians and national papers happily swept under the carpet and ignored when they urged people to vote out without having any plan or notion about how to manage Brexit and rstructure education and resources to cope with all that would be lost.
No-one should be surprised that the EU now turns itself to protecting the economies and security of the remaining members.
If you're the member of a sports centre and leave , do you go to reception and ask if it's ok to use the pool? or the gym? or the exercise classes?
Cornwall received more EU money than any other county and still they voted leave. Bizarrely the day following the result folk were interviewed about the outcome and were saying " but we'll still get our subsidies won't we? "
You couldn't make this stuff up.
From where I sit, up here on the fence where most private businesses are, I can't chose who to be most angry with between the self interested, self aggrandising MPs who have never got used the diminution of their influence that results from membership of the EU, and the mendacious behaviour of the one industry currently profiting from all of this - the news media. They are all indulging themselves in the heady drink of being the centre of attention and the rest of us, apparently, can just go hang while they have their fun.
'Take back control'? 'Give back control', more like, to the media millionaires who are despised in most of the EU and attention seeking UK politicians who live their lives in a public funded bubble.
Bah humbug
The only politician I have cheered in the last 2 weeks was the one on the radio talking about the terrible situation in Yemen - I think it was Alistair Burt - who was asked about Brexit at the end of his piece and said words to the effect "It's a trade negotiation between first world countries and it'll get sorted eventually. There are far more important things going on in the world".
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
I do know that I feel genuinely scared about the future.
I need GIN.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
The only politician in this country who I actually like.
RG - well said but let us not forget that even in first world countries there are poor and disadvangated people being badly neglected while all this hoo-hah carries on and others who fear for their jobs, incomes and thus homes and futures. Not as desperate as Yemen or modern slavery/people trafficking/human rights abuses in Russia/China/Korea/Middle East/USA/Trump shenanigans but still devastating for those concerned who are also human beings who deserve better from their government and their press.