Why cannt we have a regular 1 hour slot and get all the presenters on board.
I am delighted Monty is back and love what we have seen of his garden to date. I also think Rachael should be given a chance. She cannt help being so beautiful! I just think everyone's trying a bit too hard at the moment but am certain the new line up will hit its stride in a few weeks. Regarding Toby - well I struggled with his taste and style but still admired him. and Alys. I would like an hour long GW show where Monty, can do his garden, Toby and Alys can do there garden and the others guest where appropriate.
A good point made by rustlings55 - why can't all the presenters be involved?
I personally prefer Toby and Alys's advice and style of presentation, but there is a place for Monty's style of gardening too and he put much more personality into the second show.
Having an hour long programme featuring all three as main presenters would ensure that everyone is happy... and ensure that the Greenacres garden paid for with our licence fee money justifies its cost.
Maybe someone might like to tell me why there is only one gardening TV show? Like many others, l flick through countless channels of rubbish only to find good old BBC2 continuing with GW. So, to satisfy people's differing opinions on what makes a good gardener/TV presenter someone should be hosting another show with another presenter? Personally, its Monty any day of the week. Spare me Alys & Toby please!
Just watched the second show of this series of GW. Still finding it very very dull. Will give it another 2 weeks then if I'm still bored stiff will stop watching.
And totally agree with all those saying there is room for Monty & co & for Toby & Alys.
Ok, BBC, here are some sensible options that will keep everyone happy:
1: a whole hour of GW with Monty & Toby co-presenting, (make sure Alys is included)
2: Monty & Toby present alternate weeks- Monty presents from his garden one week; Toby presents from Greenacres the next & so on.
3: two gardening programmes a week- one presentd by Toby & Alys & one presentd by Monty & co.
See, BBC, it's not difficult; would keep us all happy & improve your viewing figures.
Head Gardener - Alan Titchmarsh with Carol Klein and Chris Beardshaw and Alys as the weekly feature gardener from her own garden. An hour long in length, as a 1/2 hour simply isn't long enough. Alans theme tune + pics style.
That would be perfect-just perfect.
I do think that we the viewers should be able to choose, i have to say. After all we fund it and watch it. Dwindling viewer figures are showing that something is seriously wrong, so why don't you listen to us please BBC & Gardeners World production team, we ARE trying to tell you what is wrong?!
Crashing & burning-fast! I have watched both G.World new episodes now and then again from recordings & oh dear-they are confusing to keep with,Monty does seem to be trying but it's not happening & now he's almost trying too hard as is Rachel. I am aware that they are pre-recorded programmes so it can't be from listening to viewer comments that the trying too hard feeling is happening so don't know what it is! I fell asleep half way through & was woken by my little girl climbing onto my knee with her fave story book-me fall asleep during gardening stuff on tele-it doesn't happen believe me! Hence i re-watched to see why i fell asleep. There's nothing there to hold your attention-nothing to inspire & Monty just mutters on with close-up shots of well placed products,don't know how the beeb gets away with that, & Rachel is- well not sure what the poor girl is actually there for. If it wasn't for Carol Klein it would be in a right state. I won't be watching it anymore as there really is no point. My students comments in my workshops are telling me the same thing-waste of time. Now the lighter evenings are about to be upon us i will stay in my shed with the radio, a cuppa & prepping for my Workshops. Shame really as i did used to get good ideas from G.World for my students, but if they have lost interest & are as confused as i am well why persevere & flog a dying horse eh? Such a shame really it is, but is is cringeworthy stuff these days.
Where is the "Spring Garden inspiration"? Where are the practical yet inspiring ideas? What has happened to the presentation? Where has the Friday Night Gardening programme "feeling" gone? Why am i bothering as the beeb/gardeners world t.v production team/person clearly isn't? Something died when Alan Titchmarsh left. Monty took over and i nearly died too trying to get into it and follow his ways. It struggled with Toby & co with the new foremat then changed direction just in time and had become a gardening programme in its own right. Shan't be watching anymore now though, the enjoyment has gone ~_~
Oh how very very sad. I have watched GW since I can remember. Always loved the show. What have the BBC done? I feel so sad. Toby and Alys were the next generation gardeners and reflected modern times. They provided gardening advice for EVERYONE. People in small spaces with little garden and money. (Not those likley to be pruning fruit trees this weekend)!!! Rachels bit was nothing short of pathetic. Alys got her sleeves rolled up and got stuck in.
I agree with Lamorna (59 + 96), Toby, Alys , Monty all have good things to offer - let's have 2 programmes - I would watch both please BBC - do all us gardeners a favour
Just read some of this blog. I work as a garden tour guide in a very well known & loved historical National Trust property and garden in the south of England. I completely agree with the majority of coments here in so far as we do need 2 differing gardening programmes to cater to what the viewers want. Also an hour long slot is needed as a 1/2 hour simply is not long enough, no matter what the programme content nor who the gardening presenters should be. Toby and his team were the perfect mix for todays 2011 gardeners, that's very clear from the comments. Monty... it's a difficult one, as he obviously has his followers but his presentation & style is hard to follow, that is also clearly stated here and i do pick up on this from public comments within my working day. While yes he does have his fans, i do feel that they are in the minority & that he is not for Gardeners World, his own programme maybe, but not Gardeners World in the required and wanted style. Within my working day as a garden tour guide (i am Kew trained & do this as a volunteer in my retirement) comments re all sorts of gardening programmes and radio etc do get run by me within the bounds of conversation, and i have to say that Toby, Carol, Alys and Chris Beardshaw (next to Mr T himself) ARE the popular choice. My personal preference as well,i have to say. It's such a shame to see this debate as it is, it really should not have come to this. It is however the viewing public just airing its concerns and preferences. I fear that the viewing figures will continue to slide downhill along with the fear that Gardeners World may be axed as a result. Gardeners World needs a new production team, an hour long slot, a presenting team who the viewers want and simply a return to Alans programme style and content. After all that did work and was well loved. As for Monty, maybe again an hours slot in his chosen style where he can Jewel, Lime Walk and Lecture Style garden for those who wish to follow his ways. Something has to be changed as currently it is a dying swan.
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I am delighted Monty is back and love what we have seen of his garden to date. I also think Rachael should be given a chance. She cannt help being so beautiful! I just think everyone's trying a bit too hard at the moment but am certain the new line up will hit its stride in a few weeks.
Regarding Toby - well I struggled with his taste and style but still admired him. and Alys.
I would like an hour long GW show where Monty, can do his garden, Toby and Alys can do there garden and the others guest where appropriate.
I personally prefer Toby and Alys's advice and style of presentation, but there is a place for Monty's style of gardening too and he put much more personality into the second show.
Having an hour long programme featuring all three as main presenters would ensure that everyone is happy... and ensure that the Greenacres garden paid for with our licence fee money justifies its cost.
So, to satisfy people's differing opinions on what makes a good gardener/TV presenter someone should be hosting another show with another presenter?
Personally, its Monty any day of the week. Spare me Alys & Toby please!
And totally agree with all those saying there is room for Monty & co & for Toby & Alys.
Ok, BBC, here are some sensible options that will keep everyone happy:
1: a whole hour of GW with Monty & Toby co-presenting, (make sure Alys is included)
2: Monty & Toby present alternate weeks- Monty presents from his garden one week; Toby presents from Greenacres the next & so on.
3: two gardening programmes a week- one presentd by Toby & Alys & one presentd by Monty & co.
See, BBC, it's not difficult; would keep us all happy & improve your viewing figures.
SIMPLES
Head Gardener - Alan Titchmarsh
with Carol Klein and Chris Beardshaw
and Alys as the weekly feature gardener from her own garden.
An hour long in length, as a 1/2 hour simply isn't long enough.
Alans theme tune + pics style.
That would be perfect-just perfect.
I do think that we the viewers should be able to choose, i have to say. After all we fund it and watch it.
Dwindling viewer figures are showing that something is seriously wrong, so why don't you listen to us please BBC & Gardeners World production team, we ARE trying to tell you what is wrong?!
I have watched both G.World new episodes now and then again from recordings & oh dear-they are confusing to keep with,Monty does seem to be trying but it's not happening & now he's almost trying too hard as is Rachel. I am aware that they are pre-recorded programmes so it can't be from listening to viewer comments that the trying too hard feeling is happening so don't know what it is! I fell asleep half way through & was woken by my little girl climbing onto my knee with her fave story book-me fall asleep during gardening stuff on tele-it doesn't happen believe me!
Hence i re-watched to see why i fell asleep. There's nothing there to hold your attention-nothing to inspire & Monty just mutters on with close-up shots of well placed products,don't know how the beeb gets away with that, & Rachel is- well not sure what the poor girl is actually there for. If it wasn't for Carol Klein it would be in a right state. I won't be watching it anymore as there really is no point. My students comments in my workshops are telling me the same thing-waste of time. Now the lighter evenings are about to be upon us i will stay in my shed with the radio, a cuppa & prepping for my Workshops. Shame really as i did used to get good ideas from G.World for my students, but if they have lost interest & are as confused as i am well why persevere & flog a dying horse eh?
Such a shame really it is, but is is cringeworthy stuff these days.
Something died when Alan Titchmarsh left. Monty took over and i nearly died too trying to get into it and follow his ways. It struggled with Toby & co with the new foremat then changed direction just in time and had become a gardening programme in its own right.
Shan't be watching anymore now though, the enjoyment has gone ~_~
Oh how very very sad. I have watched GW since I can remember. Always loved the show. What have the BBC done? I feel so sad. Toby and Alys were the next generation gardeners and reflected modern times. They provided gardening advice for EVERYONE. People in small spaces with little garden and money. (Not those likley to be pruning fruit trees this weekend)!!! Rachels bit was nothing short of pathetic. Alys got her sleeves rolled up and got stuck in.
I work as a garden tour guide in a very well known & loved historical National Trust property and garden in the south of England. I completely agree with the majority of coments here in so far as we do need 2 differing gardening programmes to cater to what the viewers want. Also an hour long slot is needed as a 1/2 hour simply is not long enough, no matter what the programme content nor who the gardening presenters should be.
Toby and his team were the perfect mix for todays 2011 gardeners, that's very clear from the comments. Monty... it's a difficult one, as he obviously has his followers but his presentation & style is hard to follow, that is also clearly stated here and i do pick up on this from public comments within my working day. While yes he does have his fans, i do feel that they are in the minority & that he is not for Gardeners World, his own programme maybe, but not Gardeners World in the required and wanted style. Within my working day as a garden tour guide (i am Kew trained & do this as a volunteer in my retirement) comments re all sorts of gardening programmes and radio etc do get run by me within the bounds of conversation, and i have to say that Toby, Carol, Alys and Chris Beardshaw (next to Mr T himself) ARE the popular choice. My personal preference as well,i have to say.
It's such a shame to see this debate as it is, it really should not have come to this. It is however the viewing public just airing its concerns and preferences. I fear that the viewing figures will continue to slide downhill along with the fear that Gardeners World may be axed as a result.
Gardeners World needs a new production team, an hour long slot, a presenting team who the viewers want and simply a return to Alans programme style and content. After all that did work and was well loved.
As for Monty, maybe again an hours slot in his chosen style where he can Jewel, Lime Walk and Lecture Style garden for those who wish to follow his ways.
Something has to be changed as currently it is a dying swan.