I have looked at your suggestions @zugenie. Some amazing photos and colours. A nursery close to me has Super Trouper in stock so I will go and have a look this week. I am not keen on Henri Delbard though I haven't seen it except in photos. I hope the nursery doesn't have a huge choice as I only have room for two more roses!! Thanks again to you and @Marlorena.
@PeterAberdeen I've just noticed your photos, fabulous tree ! and to know it for so long, such a treasure.. Roses all coming along in splendid fashion..
Re Westerland.. I had it on an obelisk, metal, box shaped, I won't use wood.. about 6 foot tall... it's trainable.. I decided not to keep it as it was a gift, and I'm not fond of gift roses, so it quietly went its way.. the big thorns helped me in my decision. I might have shown these photos before in previous discussions.. train a cane or two straight up, and others angled around it but there's no need to be too fussy..
I am so pleased the roses are coming along well, as it's my first season with them, I was not sure - without any previous knowledge or experience. I just need to be patient, as "Slowly. slowly - catchy monkey!'
Can I ask, why you recommend a metal obelisk, rather than a wooden one. The thorns do not put me off as this is a border to look at from a distance and to me a rose is a rose is a rose and thorns come with the territory.
All noted on the training - I may get as a potted rose this year, depending on the speed in getting the border ready (as I also want to put in a pond, and would like to do that this summer, ready for next year), or I may wait for bare root season and let it bed in over the winter ready for '24 season.
Your pictures, as always are lovely and I am sure your Westerland went to a good home.
In winter: In summer: It is suitable for a bigger shrub or a small climber. I just let my rose grow through it to keep it vertical. Otherwise, it would be floppy, getting into the path. And it grows slightly taller this way.
For a typical climber, I would want something much heavier with at least a 60cm base.
I also have a metal obelisk elsewhere. And a metal arch. The arch is the worst so far, rusting in a way that could be structurally problematic.
Nice bee Mr Vine, you do some interesting projects..
Beautiful garden edhelka..
@PeterAberdeen I don't use wood as I'm past my sell by date as regards maintenance, and I have found that even pressure treated wood doesn't last long here.. even my shed is metal.. I get my cheap obelisks from UK Garden Supplies, but I can also make my own even cheaper using green metal stakes that have little notches on them, from Wickes, £4-£6 each.. up to 2.4m.. a group of 3 gives a ready made obelisk.. You will want something more architecturally aesthetic, which will look fabulous in your Scottish garden.. I love the look of wood though..
Ha, if only Marlorena! Smudge is not in the least bit submissive, they are a bossy breed. That’s just her favourite lounging position, she sleeps in her basket like that too.
I’m glad Westerland is trainable and M confirmed that for you @PeterAberdeen. I thought it worth checking because my poor climber Warm Welcome had rough treatment, cut down once to remove a rotting hazel obelisk, which was replaced by a metal one, then cut down again to retrain because my SIL told me I should have wound the canes around. As it happens, it refused to be trained and grows straight up like the pillar rose it is. No wonder it nearly gave up the ghost!
@daisym, here is my Super Trooper this morning. It’s a very easy, healthy rose with good foliage and an upright habit - the blooms are supported well with no flopping. I really like it at this stage. It’s a shame the blooms turn a horrid dirty coral in my very hot summers, but that’s not likely a problem in the UK..
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Im just catching up on the thread after feeling well enough to still get away for a few days. Ive got my first open rose of the year, for your eyes only which was a suprise, hadnt noticed the buds! Bit of a sad gardener though - horrendous slug problems, utterly destroying my spring bulbs, as in eating the buds before the narcissus can even open & gouging great chunks out of any that do. Its so disheartening.
Blackspot is actually WORSE now im back too despite giving up and spraying Friday! Im not sure what to do. Torrential rain maybe a factor?
No malvern show for me now either, train strikes all weekend so no way to get there and id been really looking forward to it. Cheer needed!
New Lady Emma Hamilton standard, the last one nabbed from Lens. It arrived with a graft on the right splitting off from the trunk that I had to prune off. Seems to be recovering well from that:
Second season for ground cover rose Avalanche Abricot [EU only at present]. I’m looking forward to seeing how this develops. I’d like a tall pillar-style stand to put the pot on, imagining branches draping down artfully..
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
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I hope the nursery doesn't have a huge choice as I only have room for two more roses!!
Thanks again to you and @Marlorena.
I am so pleased the roses are coming along well, as it's my first season with them, I was not sure - without any previous knowledge or experience. I just need to be patient, as "Slowly. slowly - catchy monkey!'
Can I ask, why you recommend a metal obelisk, rather than a wooden one. The thorns do not put me off as this is a border to look at from a distance and to me a rose is a rose is a rose and thorns come with the territory.
Oh I'd forgotten to share this. It was actually the highlight of the weekend (sorry Chaz!)
Witnessed one of our new bees (raised last year and overwintered) checking out of the hotel.
It is 1.9m total but the lowest tier is almost buried, so more like 1.6-1.7m.
In winter:
In summer:
It is suitable for a bigger shrub or a small climber. I just let my rose grow through it to keep it vertical. Otherwise, it would be floppy, getting into the path. And it grows slightly taller this way.
For a typical climber, I would want something much heavier with at least a 60cm base.
I also have a metal obelisk elsewhere. And a metal arch. The arch is the worst so far, rusting in a way that could be structurally problematic.
Beautiful garden edhelka..
@PeterAberdeen
I don't use wood as I'm past my sell by date as regards maintenance, and I have found that even pressure treated wood doesn't last long here.. even my shed is metal.. I get my cheap obelisks from UK Garden Supplies, but I can also make my own even cheaper using green metal stakes that have little notches on them, from Wickes, £4-£6 each.. up to 2.4m.. a group of 3 gives a ready made obelisk..
You will want something more architecturally aesthetic, which will look fabulous in your Scottish garden.. I love the look of wood though..
I’m glad Westerland is trainable and M confirmed that for you @PeterAberdeen. I thought it worth checking because my poor climber Warm Welcome had rough treatment, cut down once to remove a rotting hazel obelisk, which was replaced by a metal one, then cut down again to retrain because my SIL told me I should have wound the canes around. As it happens, it refused to be trained and grows straight up like the pillar rose it is. No wonder it nearly gave up the ghost!
@daisym, here is my Super Trooper this morning. It’s a very easy, healthy rose with good foliage and an upright habit - the blooms are supported well with no flopping. I really like it at this stage. It’s a shame the blooms turn a horrid dirty coral in my very hot summers, but that’s not likely a problem in the UK..
Bit of a sad gardener though - horrendous slug problems, utterly destroying my spring bulbs, as in eating the buds before the narcissus can even open & gouging great chunks out of any that do. Its so disheartening.
Blackspot is actually WORSE now im back too despite giving up and spraying Friday! Im not sure what to do. Torrential rain maybe a factor?
No malvern show for me now either, train strikes all weekend so no way to get there and id been really looking forward to it. Cheer needed!
New Lady Emma Hamilton standard, the last one nabbed from Lens. It arrived with a graft on the right splitting off from the trunk that I had to prune off. Seems to be recovering well from that:
Second season for ground cover rose Avalanche Abricot [EU only at present]. I’m looking forward to seeing how this develops. I’d like a tall pillar-style stand to put the pot on, imagining branches draping down artfully..
I think if I wanted a short, glowing orange rose, I'd go with 'Fragrant Cloud'.. a bright orange/red, but with a scent that's difficult to beat..