Any one want to comment about which DA roses they find have the best cut rose shelf life? I am considering buying Emily Bronte and The Lady Gardener, but I don't want to be disappointed with blooms that shatter as soon as I bring them indoors.
I have cut my new Champagne Moment and it has lasted 4 days and still going strong. Likewise I cut a section from my Amazing Day which was nearly on the ground with three blooms, and they have lasted as long. Cream Abundance the same. Geoff Hamilton failed on morning number four, never opening fully.
My first ever rose was Macmillan Nurse, which is an utter failure as a cut rose! I will be giving it away this year!!
@newbie77@SalixGold Thank you ☺️. That is too kind. It’s been grossly neglected this year with all the work for school and my hospital stays, but we are helping each other on the way to recovery - the garden is helping me and I do my best for it. My time in the hospital has taught me once again how important it is to have a quiet space where you feel safe and grounded. The garden is sometimes more my home than my house is.
@Marlorena I know you have grown a fair few in your time..
Do you find trios decline or become less productive eventually, more so than singly planted roses? I’ve found mine have not done so well this year. My front one of Munstead Wood is exposed to full-on sun and appears to be dying. The rear of my triangle of Lady Emma Hamilton, likewise. Julia Child has retained plant shape evenly, but has bloomed much less this year.
Cuttings:
We are always advised to take ‘pencil thick’ strong new growth. What about jumbo pencil thick? I had a vigorous new basal earlier in the year that’s about 1cm in diameter. Would that be too chunky to take?
TIA.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
What a rotten cold wet summer here in Bedfordshire. But the Lady of Shalott is always cheerful.
Sending you internet hugs, @pitter-patter. What a gorgeous teacher gift, undoubtedly richly deserved.
@crighton03 Tranquillity, Princess Alexandra of Kent, Emily Brontë and Evelyn are the Austins that last best in a vase for me. Can get a good week out of them. I love Emily Brontë but it is quite stingy with blooms for me so far!
@Nollie Well, I've grown 6 roses here in this garden in groups of 3's.. 5 of those were Austin's including 'MW'... I can't say I noticed any problems with such groupings except that they need to be pruned hard due to the close spacing.. otherwise they grow too big and start to look messy. I've given up on this now as I find 1 is enough of any individual rose.. but it did have its merits in the short term..
I'm not aware of any root issues with this, I've even had 2 climbing roses growing in the same large planting hole.. it has been said that it might cause a rose replant type problem when the roots merge, but I didn't notice any deterioration,.. quite the opposite in fact.. Look at what they do at DA gardens, growing 5 or 7 all together in a bunch. It used to surprise me as I was always taught to gives roses plenty of space, so it went against the grain for me, but having tried it here I did not find any issues.. The roses I grew in groups of 3 were.. 'Boscobel'.. 'Princess Anne'.. 'Munstead wood'.. 'The Herbalist'.. 'Anne Boleyn' and 'A Midsummer Night's Dream'.. all good ..
Climbers in the same hole.. 'Baronne Prevost' and 'The Generous Gardener'.. no problems at all.. Amazing what you can get away with..
Re the propagation.. I think 1cm would be quite alright, but I have always been surprised how even a very thin shoot can root.. sometimes it seems the thinnest root better than the thick ones, something I've noticed in the past.. Austin's seem to root very easily.. and on this subject, I noticed there was a question a short time ago about the legalities of propagating roses..
I understand the legal situation is this.. and I got the information from a Legal site I used to read.. You can propagate roses, even new ones, for your own personal use. If they are within patent, which now covers 25 years, and you sell them to anyone then that's when you are breaking the law without a license. This can include selling to a neighbour, or boot sale, or even giving the roses to a Charity shop who then go on to sell them.. and of course sites like Ebay.. As long as no money changes hands, then it's all above board..
However, would anyone ever find out? I doubt it..
Still on this subject, I noticed something on Facebook recently about various youtube channels telling people how to propagate roses very easily using some new found methods.. Jason at Fraser Valley Roses has made a video debunking all this..
Hi guys, me again I have finally found a place where I believe a rose can go. It's sunny and breezy and no moss at all.
This is a balcony next to the main bedroom. I am hoping it's possible to put a fragrant rose here in a pot. Ideally I'd like it to climb along the railing as well. The railing is 18 feet (5.5 meters) long. I suspect a climber is too big for this space, right? Maybe a procumbent rose and I can tie its canes to the railing? I also saw @Marlorena suggesting it's possible to use a shrub as a small climber. But I have no idea how to go about determining which shrub rose is suitable for the purpose...
@Marlorena thanks on both counts, obviously a localised issue then. I do like the trios and they do get pruned and looked after well but they seem to be fairly self-regulating and never get too unwieldy. It will be very annoying indeed if the front MW dies especially. The 1cm cane I’m eying for a cutting is coincidentally on one of the other MWs. One in, one out, perhaps..
That’s how I understood the licensing laws too.
People spread such ludicrous fake stuff on the internet for clicks, shame knowledgeable professionals like Jason then have to waste time debunking them.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Marlorena many thanks for the advice. Hopefully the recent deluge we had will make an impact. I’ve 3 200 litre water butts full from yesterdays rains. We have more forecast.
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I have cut my new Champagne Moment and it has lasted 4 days and still going strong. Likewise I cut a section from my Amazing Day which was nearly on the ground with three blooms, and they have lasted as long. Cream Abundance the same. Geoff Hamilton failed on morning number four, never opening fully.
My first ever rose was Macmillan Nurse, which is an utter failure as a cut rose! I will be giving it away this year!!
Planting in threes:
@Marlorena I know you have grown a fair few in your time..
Do you find trios decline or become less productive eventually, more so than singly planted roses? I’ve found mine have not done so well this year. My front one of Munstead Wood is exposed to full-on sun and appears to be dying. The rear of my triangle of Lady Emma Hamilton, likewise. Julia Child has retained plant shape evenly, but has bloomed much less this year.
Cuttings:
We are always advised to take ‘pencil thick’ strong new growth. What about jumbo pencil thick? I had a vigorous new basal earlier in the year that’s about 1cm in diameter. Would that be too chunky to take?
TIA.
Sending you internet hugs, @pitter-patter. What a gorgeous teacher gift, undoubtedly richly deserved.
@crighton03 Tranquillity, Princess Alexandra of Kent, Emily Brontë and Evelyn are the Austins that last best in a vase for me. Can get a good week out of them. I love Emily Brontë but it is quite stingy with blooms for me so far!
Well, I've grown 6 roses here in this garden in groups of 3's.. 5 of those were Austin's including 'MW'... I can't say I noticed any problems with such groupings except that they need to be pruned hard due to the close spacing.. otherwise they grow too big and start to look messy.
I've given up on this now as I find 1 is enough of any individual rose.. but it did have its merits in the short term..
I'm not aware of any root issues with this, I've even had 2 climbing roses growing in the same large planting hole.. it has been said that it might cause a rose replant type problem when the roots merge, but I didn't notice any deterioration,.. quite the opposite in fact..
Look at what they do at DA gardens, growing 5 or 7 all together in a bunch. It used to surprise me as I was always taught to gives roses plenty of space, so it went against the grain for me, but having tried it here I did not find any issues..
The roses I grew in groups of 3 were..
'Boscobel'.. 'Princess Anne'.. 'Munstead wood'.. 'The Herbalist'.. 'Anne Boleyn' and 'A Midsummer Night's Dream'.. all good ..
Climbers in the same hole.. 'Baronne Prevost' and 'The Generous Gardener'.. no problems at all..
Amazing what you can get away with..
Sorry I can't help with your local issue though..
Austin's seem to root very easily.. and on this subject, I noticed there was a question a short time ago about the legalities of propagating roses..
I understand the legal situation is this.. and I got the information from a Legal site I used to read..
You can propagate roses, even new ones, for your own personal use.
If they are within patent, which now covers 25 years, and you sell them to anyone then that's when you are breaking the law without a license.
This can include selling to a neighbour, or boot sale, or even giving the roses to a Charity shop who then go on to sell them.. and of course sites like Ebay..
As long as no money changes hands, then it's all above board..
However, would anyone ever find out? I doubt it..
Still on this subject, I noticed something on Facebook recently about various youtube channels telling people how to propagate roses very easily using some new found methods..
Jason at Fraser Valley Roses has made a video debunking all this..
Professional Grower Exposes Fake Rose Propagation Videos - YouTube
That’s how I understood the licensing laws too.
People spread such ludicrous fake stuff on the internet for clicks, shame knowledgeable professionals like Jason then have to waste time debunking them.