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ROSES: Autumn/Winter 2022-23

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  • Alfie_Alfie_ Posts: 456
    edited December 2022
    @owd potter and @Lizzie27 - oh the render system is a nightmare to be honest. It is compromised and hollow in places as we had a thorough specialist heritage survey due to age of property. It is sand and cement and about 25% of the front bit is delaminated so needs redoing at some point. Since it’s over 200 years it needs to be lime rendered and that is not cheap at all! So it’s a case of waiting for the piggy bank to grow :D.  Some of the air in the front room is damp because some of the cracks are open to the elements but no physical damp on walls. It’s amazing how old properties do their best when treated as they were when they were built. We had a damp wall in the brick part of the house and it was because the internal plaster was gypsum. It was hacked off and redone in fat lime and horse hair plaster and the damp instantly vanished. 


    Thanks for the MAC advice. I think I will prune and leave it to do its thing. 

    @Nollie sorry to hear that. I wish you a speedy recovery! Yes please send photos of your Gerty when you unleash her :D

    I just noticed that one of my CM bare roots (Queen of D) has had one of the main roots pruned - is this normal? 



    Since it’s dark before and after work are bare roots ok left on the side in the house for several days or should I be doing something else with them? They arrived Wednesday and I won’t get out in day light until Saturday (depressing). 
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    I sympathise @Alfie_ my house is originally 18c, stone-built directly on sloping rock with no dpm so should be allowed to breathe, but it has been rough-rendered internally with what looks like concrete! No damp so far, fortunately, except a small patch in the kitchen and the render has not blown anywhere.

    Your QoS should be fine, big chunky rootstock - that pruned root will have been very long and the rose won’t suffer for it. Your bare roots will be ok at the side of the house but plunged into a large bucket of water right up to cover the graft. Do that double pronto as the small feeder roots will dry out fast and it’s important to keep them hydrated until you are ready to plant. If you are due a heavy frost, maybe better to put the bucket in a garage or porch, but not a heated house.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • @WhereAreMySecateurs I have also discovered, although everyone probably knows already, that the Harkness Roses website is run by Yougarden.
  • WAMSWAMS Posts: 1,960
    I didn't know that.😲 Mind you, the rose I ordered from YouGarden on amazon before I knew any better was good!
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Nice trio @WhereAreMySecateurs, hoover up the old Austins while you can, I’d say, since many of those discontinued are fine roses undeserving of it. I was going to bin Darcy because it gets bad blackspot here, but it’s going into pot ghetto instead because I do like the upright blooms. 
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • Alfie_Alfie_ Posts: 456
    @WhereAreMySecateurs - your rose order looks grand! Good job. I love LEH and MW. I wonder if I will ever manage to get them now. 

    @Nollie. Ah that’s interesting about your place. Yes, that heritage surveyor said any modern materials used he would leave unless they are causing a problem. Thanks for the tips on the bare roots. Just to be clear do I submerge all the way up to the very top including the circled bit here?



    @ross@rossdriscoll13 - that Harkness rose looks lovely. 
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    ^ absolutely, anything is better than nothing - if you don’t have a bucket, even running them under a tap and wrapping them in a plastic bag with some water in the bottom will keep the roots sufficiently hydrated for a day or two. Once you have opened the packaging you need to act quickly.

    I had some bone dry bare roots delivered from Belgium last year, no plastic to retain moisture, just wrapped in a brown paper bag then in a cardboard box. Fortunately I was here and opened the box. I plunged them deep into a bucket immediately but did lose some brittle feeder roots, they dropped off and floated around in the water. I got there just in time I think, as the roses recovered. If I had left the box unopened for a week they may not have.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
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