So you're saying that what Saddam did justifies innocent people dying - who may even have opposed Saddam - and also then ignore the legacy of that conflict?
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Allied total losses were estimated to be 250 personnel killed as a direct result of enemy action.
Most of the fatalities were American, while 47 British personnel died.
According to the Imperial War Museum, between 20,000 and 35,000 Iraqi soldiers died during the ground war.
Civilian deaths resulting from the conflict are estimated at between 100,000 and 200,000.
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...that's all right then - Saddam was a nasty man.
How many did Stalin kill without any intervention? What is happening in China?
I might as well argue then that the shutting down of the pits was also justified as it was going to happen anyway - and Scargill was also a power crazed loony.
If anyone cannot see that certain posts by Balgay Hill were at the very least perjorative, and worst, downright disgusting about a collective, then you are lost in the quagmire of group think.
I think myself and Hostafan1 had/have already pointed out that , that was an inappropriate comment @Marlorena.
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
This is also from the Guardian: "The sixth-richest country in the world faces a winter of humanitarian crisis. Unless the government acts now, millions of Britons will be unable to keep their homes warm. Some will die while, as the NHS warns, many more will fall seriously ill. Schools, hospitals and care homes across the country must choose between busting their budgets or freezing. Countless shops and businesses will close, never to open again. More than 70% of pubs are preparing for last orders, while any restaurant, cafe, chippy or kebab shop must now face existential threat, thanks to a quadrupling of their energy bills, surging food prices and a recession that will kill discretionary spending. As economic catastrophes go, this looks far bigger than the 2008 crash. It promises to reshape our everyday lives and social fabric." https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/26/energy-bills-britons-afford-pay-price-hike-poor
What are we hearing from our current PM? Wiffle waffle. What are we hearing from the next one? Lower taxes for the better off.
Some folk seem to have very thin skin. It's well known Scotland has a major drug problem. Did i run to the mods re the comment about Scottish independence junkies? No. It's a forum. Try posting on political forums for proper 'robust' language.
Stalin killed more Russians than Hitler. Pol Pot had a go at murdering all the middle classes. China's Cultural Revolution sent middle class and intellectuals to teh rice paddies so they couldn't ask questions.
I think Margaret Thatcher began as an idealistic politician but was naive, assuming other people would also work hard and be direct in their dealings. Hence the City freedoms leading to financial shenanigans. She was right to curtail the powers of unions to bring misery with interminable strikes but wrong in her treatment of the miners.
Legalising gay rights was long overdue but a small thing @punkdoc, given the numbers involved. It doesn't change the fact that roughly half the population is female and still subject to the kind of harrassment, aggression and misbehaviour indulged in by people like your erstwhile MP for whose election campaign you worked.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
Helping 1 person get elected, who turns out to be a bad un [ never actually charged with anything ], hardly compares with what the Tory party have done, @Obelixx. Disappointing that you can sink so low.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
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Allied total losses were estimated to be 250 personnel killed as a direct result of enemy action.
Most of the fatalities were American, while 47 British personnel died.
According to the Imperial War Museum, between 20,000 and 35,000 Iraqi soldiers died during the ground war.
Civilian deaths resulting from the conflict are estimated at between 100,000 and 200,000.
I agree with you @Obelixx , but just for balance I was pointing out that its just the same on the right of the political divide.
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw'
I think myself and Hostafan1 had/have already pointed out that , that was an inappropriate comment @Marlorena.
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw'
"The sixth-richest country in the world faces a winter of humanitarian crisis. Unless the government acts now, millions of Britons will be unable to keep their homes warm. Some will die while, as the NHS warns, many more will fall seriously ill. Schools, hospitals and care homes across the country must choose between busting their budgets or freezing. Countless shops and businesses will close, never to open again. More than 70% of pubs are preparing for last orders, while any restaurant, cafe, chippy or kebab shop must now face existential threat, thanks to a quadrupling of their energy bills, surging food prices and a recession that will kill discretionary spending. As economic catastrophes go, this looks far bigger than the 2008 crash. It promises to reshape our everyday lives and social fabric."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/26/energy-bills-britons-afford-pay-price-hike-poor
What are we hearing from our current PM? Wiffle waffle. What are we hearing from the next one? Lower taxes for the better off.
Did i run to the mods re the comment about Scottish independence junkies?
No.
It's a forum. Try posting on political forums for proper 'robust' language.
I think Margaret Thatcher began as an idealistic politician but was naive, assuming other people would also work hard and be direct in their dealings. Hence the City freedoms leading to financial shenanigans. She was right to curtail the powers of unions to bring misery with interminable strikes but wrong in her treatment of the miners.
Legalising gay rights was long overdue but a small thing @punkdoc, given the numbers involved. It doesn't change the fact that roughly half the population is female and still subject to the kind of harrassment, aggression and misbehaviour indulged in by people like your erstwhile MP for whose election campaign you worked.
Disappointing that you can sink so low.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border