Most roses still on pause here but Cramoisi Superieur getting going, only it’s second season so a lot of filling out still to come:
@JessicaS I’m so sorry to hear your puppy didn’t work out, that’s my fear for old Bill since we are looking at getting another girl to keep him company. Just discussing it on a potting shed thread..
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Can anyone tell me if aphids are causing this? no recent frosts here.. a week ago couple of nights close to freezing but not as bad as Feb/ March.. not one but many buds on multiple roses
Thinking forward can anyone advise a good guide, either online or in a book to training a climber up an obelisk?
You can spiral the canes up the obelisk, and when doing winter pruning, cut back the lateral growth close-ish to the frame.Â
I’ve seen pictures of this alright. I follow Niff Barnes on Twitter. Seems like it’s the best way to do it. I’ve also seen it recommended to let a couple of the main canes go straight up to the top as well as doing the spiral. I’ve a very literal brain about some things like this so I’m wondering what way to split that, whether to have only say 2 out of 6 canes going straight up and spiral 4 or a different split.
My guess would be frost @cooldoc, sometimes they take a while to die back, I’ve certainly had a few like that.
@ciaranmcgrenera trouble is, there are various techniques and I’ve got myself tied up in knots over this in the past! If the canes of your climbing rose are flexible than the winding around the obelisk works, the closer to horizontal you can get the canes the more laterals - flowering side shoots - you will get. Some climbers have stiffer canes that resist that (hello Warm Welcome!) in which case you just have to let it get on with it, perhaps cutting shorter the canes at the front and sides so you get a cascade effect from top to bottom. The latter type work fine planted in the middle of the obelisk, but most advice says plant them outside for easier training. @Marlorena has a more relaxed approach, leaning the rose against the obelisk and tying it in, would that be right M?
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Nollie it’s a Strawberry Hill and in a pot so it’s in the middle of the obelisk. Canes seem flexible-ish at the mo but it’s still young I suppose. I think they’re supposed to be quite flexible. I’ll have to see I suppose.
The David Austin website provided the inspiration with this…
@Nollie thankfully the other pup has settled so well and has been just what we hoped, hes playing with the others, especially my 7 year old hound whose beloved sister we lost. Its lovely to see her bouncing about, given whole new energy and she adores him. Hes a big softie too so we have a lapdog again Here he is with our other boy and living his best life on the sofa.
..just noticed the above ^.. sorry to hear about your problems @JessicaS ..such a shame the other one had to go back but they look happy enough there..
Yes Nollie, I do prefer the laid back approach... I have 6 obelisks with roses, none of which are 'climbers' as such.  I don't worry myself with technique too much.. I do think it can create confusion for people if they try to emulate what they see others do, especially garden designers and those considered more professional with their expertise. ..I think it's best to work it out for yourself, as you go along, and as you get to know the rose you're growing..
Regarding Cooldoc's problems, I'm not convinced it's anything to do with aphids or frost, because if it was, we would all have those problems and every year. Even in cold Scotland in July you will see beautiful roses.  I think it's a cultivation issue, maybe due to too much nitrogen, and too little potassium, or a watering problem. I realise Cooldoc is away from home a lot at the moment..
Potassium is the best thing for rose blooms.. Not enough and you get buds failing to develop and other deformities ..
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Most roses still on pause here but Cramoisi Superieur getting going, only it’s second season so a lot of filling out still to come:
@JessicaS I’m so sorry to hear your puppy didn’t work out, that’s my fear for old Bill since we are looking at getting another girl to keep him company. Just discussing it on a potting shed thread..
@ciaranmcgrenera trouble is, there are various techniques and I’ve got myself tied up in knots over this in the past! If the canes of your climbing rose are flexible than the winding around the obelisk works, the closer to horizontal you can get the canes the more laterals - flowering side shoots - you will get. Some climbers have stiffer canes that resist that (hello Warm Welcome!) in which case you just have to let it get on with it, perhaps cutting shorter the canes at the front and sides so you get a cascade effect from top to bottom. The latter type work fine planted in the middle of the obelisk, but most advice says plant them outside for easier training. @Marlorena has a more relaxed approach, leaning the rose against the obelisk and tying it in, would that be right M?
The David Austin website provided the inspiration with this…
@Nollie thankfully the other pup has settled so well and has been just what we hoped, hes playing with the others, especially my 7 year old hound whose beloved sister we lost. Its lovely to see her bouncing about, given whole new energy and she adores him. Hes a big softie too so we have a lapdog again
Here he is with our other boy and living his best life on the sofa.
..such a shame the other one had to go back but they look happy enough there..
Yes Nollie, I do prefer the laid back approach... I have 6 obelisks with roses, none of which are 'climbers' as such.  I don't worry myself with technique too much.. I do think it can create confusion for people if they try to emulate what they see others do, especially garden designers and those considered more professional with their expertise.
..I think it's best to work it out for yourself, as you go along, and as you get to know the rose you're growing..
Regarding Cooldoc's problems, I'm not convinced it's anything to do with aphids or frost, because if it was, we would all have those problems and every year. Even in cold Scotland in July you will see beautiful roses. Â
I think it's a cultivation issue, maybe due to too much nitrogen, and too little potassium, or a watering problem. I realise Cooldoc is away from home a lot at the moment..
Potassium is the best thing for rose blooms.. Not enough and you get buds failing to develop and other deformities ..