Oh gosh I feel terrible, I really should take more time to explain things to those newer to roses, but I was in a hurry and didn't have time to elucidate..
When I said ''yank it out''.. what you should have done was hold your rose with your left hand, firmly, and with your right hand grasp the sucker shoot, and tug [I say yank] it gently away from the rose..Ā Ā what you've done there inadvertently is pull part of the rootstock away with it.Ā Ā Suckers, as you can see there, tend to emanate from right under the graft union.Ā Ā Another way would be to simply rummage in the soil, find the point of contact and yank [tug] it off from that.
Do keep an eye on your rose, it might suffer a check, but that's the taproot you've taken off there I think..Ā Ā
You can actually get away with this, as I've done it before on one of my roses ['Wild Rover'].Ā Not a sucker but simply a new basal that grew up, and I pulled on it and up came part of the rootstock with it.Ā Ā You can get a whole 2nd rose that way, immediately, without bothering with cuttings.. planted up it will soon take off as it already has roots,Ā as you could do with that sucker..
If your rose fails I'm happy to get DA to send you a new potted one, at my expense as I should have taken more time with you...Ā all good, no problem..Ā
Another question... how close to a tree can you plant a rose, if you water it assiduously? I have a lovely old one about a metre from an ash that does ok (the ash has a clematis growing up through it that I planted at its base a few years back, no problems and I seldom water it, so perhaps ashes aren't so thirsty).
I have a very pretty rowan tree at least 60 years old that has grass on one side and bare earth on the other (where there's a garden patch a bit further down and the children tend to dig about there, so there's nothing much there but bare earth and nettles). Would it be possible to plant a ground cover type rose (forget the technical name) there, say four feet from the base of the tree? Or would she be too thirsty?
@Marlorena I was a little surprised myself when it came up like that, as I had effectively done as you say and exposed the point from which it was growing, grasped the rootstock and pulled it away.Ā Sure there was a little resistance but once the sucker released from the rootstock it came up easily along with the piece of root. Even had you explained at length previously, I don't believe I would or could have done anything differently.Ā Ā I'm sure it will be fine as the rootstock looks to be quite large and substantial. In any event I absolutely would not countenance holding you responsible.Ā Please, please think nothing more of it. best regards,Ā Owd
Also very pleased to have found that they are stocking the 4 for Ā£10 soil improver at my nearest garden centre again! After complaining about it on here. Got plenty to get mulching with now.
Also got some more horticultural sand and grit in a multibuy offer.
Hi all. Iāve been lurking on the rose forums for a year or so and enjoying all the pics and soaking up the advice like a sponge - thanks all! Iām also very much enjoying the rose a day, summer perennials and garden gallery threads. I lurk on them all lol. I havenāt had much to post as my new build garden is only starting its first ever spring. My October planted bare root roses are starting to leaf out - amazing to see a few sticks come to life. My bare roots:
Lady of Shallot
Olivia Rose Austin - recommended to me by this forum last year
Lady of the Lake
Gertrude Jekyll
and inspired by @Mr. Vine Eye fabulous pictures - Malvern Hills
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When I said ''yank it out''.. what you should have done was hold your rose with your left hand, firmly, and with your right hand grasp the sucker shoot, and tug [I say yank] it gently away from the rose..Ā Ā what you've done there inadvertently is pull part of the rootstock away with it.Ā Ā Suckers, as you can see there, tend to emanate from right under the graft union.Ā Ā Another way would be to simply rummage in the soil, find the point of contact and yank [tug] it off from that.
Do keep an eye on your rose, it might suffer a check, but that's the taproot you've taken off there I think..Ā Ā
You can actually get away with this, as I've done it before on one of my roses ['Wild Rover'].Ā Not a sucker but simply a new basal that grew up, and I pulled on it and up came part of the rootstock with it.Ā Ā You can get a whole 2nd rose that way, immediately, without bothering with cuttings.. planted up it will soon take off as it already has roots,Ā as you could do with that sucker..
If your rose fails I'm happy to get DA to send you a new potted one, at my expense as I should have taken more time with you...Ā all good, no problem..Ā
I was a little surprised myself when it came up like that, as I had effectively done as you say and exposed the point from which it was growing, grasped the rootstock and pulled it away.Ā Sure there was a little resistance but once the sucker released from the rootstock it came up easily along with the piece of root.
Even had you explained at length previously, I don't believe I would or could have done anything differently.Ā Ā
I'm sure it will be fine as the rootstock looks to be quite large and substantial.
In any event I absolutely would not countenance holding you responsible.Ā
Please, please think nothing more of it.
best regards,Ā
Owd
I'm sure it will be fine too.Ā
@Mr. Vine Eye
..lol.. thanks, that's ok then... I can sleep easy..
By the way, you missed a few aphids Mr Vine, please be more diligent..Ā Ā handy thing to have, I use it in the greenhouse..