Don't think it's PCness @Obelixx ... think it's simple good manners and a recognition of what Ukraine is going through. It's how Ukraine spells the name of it's own capital city, after all.
Bro received this earlier today from a German farming acquaintance ...
Dear friends, >>> today I saw a Dutch farmer, who runs 4,000 hectares arable farmland in Germany and 12,000 hectares in Ukraine. In Ukraine most of his men left to fight the Russians. He has 100,000 liters of diesel left to do spring fertilizing, but that seems about it for the new crops to grow. For the whole season he needs more than 500,000 liters. He has no fuel for the harvest. He has potatoes in storage halls but no electricity for holding the ventilation and temperature and the potatoes are rotting. He can´t haul his grain to the harbor, because there are no truck drivers and the ship loading facilities are bombed. He expects no money from sales of current stocks and will have no new crops to bring to harvest. His farm is 150 km south of Kiew. >>> Ukraine grows sunflowers and makes sunflower oil to exports mainly to Germany for frying potatoes – French fries. French fries in Germany are fried to 80 percent with oil from Ukraine. People in Germany might not get French fries in the coming season. >>> Another farm in Ukraine has 120,000 hectares and 2,200 labour. Today only 200 labour stayed on the farm. The fuel tanks are bombed or confiscated and no spring crop will be grown. Grain stocks can´t be shipped to China, because the ship loading facilities are bombed. >>> Russian farms do not get parts for their machinery (John Deere and Claas tractors and combines) because of the embargo. They will also not get any chemicals, because they are all from western countries. >>> Ukraine and Russia made 1/3 of wheat world exports. We will probably see riots in many countries because of food shortage. >>> From tomorrow on we will host 6 Ukrainians in the house of my deceased parents. On Saturday another Ukrainian mother with her 6 years old son will join our farm. >>> This situation is absolutely the last, of which I would ever have dreamed of in my life. >>> After 1945 we had 35 German refugees on our farm from 20 mio, who came. In 1992 we hosted a Volga German family from Russia with 5 people for a whole year, when 1 mio of them came to Germany. Today it’s the Ukrainians. >>> The Ukrainians get work permit from the first day in Germany and full social coverage like medical care. >>> Well, I see it positive and will give them a brush to paint my farm buildings. Germany has a shortage of more than a million workers. >>> Stay healthy and safe,
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Had to laugh at an article posted by the town council on FB - I imagine it was a google translation - talking about having to sound the siren when the water got to a certain level......"and we will be ringing the mermaid when the water level reaches 3m80. We also think that the 4m20 water level will be reached overnight, then the mermaid will come back."
The word for mermaid in French is Sirene.
@D0rdogne_Damsel You posted earlier that you were thinking of volunteering to take in refugees from the Ukraine. I think that is very generous of you, but think again. You have a business that is coming into a very busy summer season and more importantly a teenage son, that needs 110% of your time!!
It is still pouring with rain here - when will it stop!!
@Obelixx I have a Lithuanian Cook Book if you'd like some idea, but you know, I think your guests would love to try your dishes, be they French or English.
Thanks @tui34. I was mainly thinking of dishes to welcome them but yes, I hope we'll be able to exchange recipes and ideas and they'll enjoy my mix of British, European and Asian dishes. We have a dog who's nervous with children so I've offered to take a couple of older ladies or an older couple. Hope they like needlework and gardening.
@D0rdogne_Damsel I agree. It's a deal with no known end to it and you need to concentrate on Charlie and the business for now.
@Dovefromabove - nobody on the Beeb or other media refers to Paris as Paree or Brussels as Brussel (Flemish) or Bruxelles (Belgian French) but there are endless cases of further flung places who change government/become independent and suddenly have new names.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
I don't think they have new names ... they're the names they originally had before we colonised them and anglicised them ... of course there will always be an anomaly or three, but I think in the case of Kyiv it's pretty obvious it's not political correctness or change for the sake of change ... it's an indication of 'solidarity'.
An example is that for almost all her adult life Ma was known by a nickname (Molly) given to her by the family nanny ... after her mother died, when Ma was almost in her 70s, she admitted that she hated being called Molly and wanted to be kinown by her proper name of Mary ... (which Pa had always called her) ... she eventually plucked up courage (she was very shy) and told their church minister who told everyone that she wanted to be known by the name she was baptised under which was Mary ... and from that day that's what all her friends called her ... there were a few slip ups to start with, but she really appreciated it.
As far as I'm concerned, if Ukranians would appreciate it if we call their capital by it's proper name, then that's what I'll call it. If Parisians would like me to pronounce Paris the French way I'll try to remember ... but to be honest I don't mind if French folk call London Londres ... but then we've not been occupied by another country for a very long time.
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I honestly don't care about all that @Dovefromabove. I am very aware of colonial stuff - I was born in a Territory after all - but I don't see why English can't still be used for place names in other countries. Whilst I quite agree that Uktrainian names should be adopted in a sovereign Ukraine country, are we to call Moscow Moskva now? Or Kobenhavn for Copenhagen?
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
If the Danes express a preference about the pronunciation of the name of their capital city then I'll try to remember ... at the moment I'm not feeling like playing nicely with Moscow ... although as I've said before, all the Russians that I know are upset and confused by what's happening.
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@Obelixx - how generous of you to take in refugees and how thoughtful to think about cooking something special to them to welcome them. I'm sure, once they arrive, you will be happily pronouncing Kyiv the Ukranian way, rather than the Russian way! Hopefully the UK will start stepping up the number of refugees we can take sooner rather than later. If I had a bigger house I would certainly consider having a family here but sadly my house is far too small.
Glad you arrived safely @Busy-Lizzie - and hope you can get your laptop cranked up again soon. I would be totally lost without mine.
I'm envying you your cat-sitting @Pat E. We always had cats until our last one died but haven't since because of their horrible tendency to kill baby birds and their habit of sharpening their claws on the furniture.
Your hubby may not have realised that today was his birthday @Hostafan1 - but you knew. I remember someone asked why he kept visiting his wife with Alzheimer's when she had no idea who he was and he replied "But I know who she is".
We had a good old go at the community garden today. My bit was by a big patch of sweet violets (which we are leaving until they have finished, when they will be rehomed). It was lovely smelling that beautiful scent as I weeded nearby.
Not surprising @Hostafan1 … given the circumstances … but given that you’ve said you’re not in the market for a pet, don’t let the old black dog make himself at home 😘 🤗 ☕️ 🍰
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Bro received this earlier today from a German farming acquaintance ...
Dear friends,
>>> today I saw a Dutch farmer, who runs 4,000 hectares arable farmland in Germany and 12,000 hectares in Ukraine. In Ukraine most of his men left to fight the Russians. He has 100,000 liters of diesel left to do spring fertilizing, but that seems about it for the new crops to grow. For the whole season he needs more than 500,000 liters. He has no fuel for the harvest. He has potatoes in storage halls but no electricity for holding the ventilation and temperature and the potatoes are rotting. He can´t haul his grain to the harbor, because there are no truck drivers and the ship loading facilities are bombed. He expects no money from sales of current stocks and will have no new crops to bring to harvest. His farm is 150 km south of Kiew.
>>> Ukraine grows sunflowers and makes sunflower oil to exports mainly to Germany for frying potatoes – French fries. French fries in Germany are fried to 80 percent with oil from Ukraine. People in Germany might not get French fries in the coming season.
>>> Another farm in Ukraine has 120,000 hectares and 2,200 labour. Today only 200 labour stayed on the farm. The fuel tanks are bombed or confiscated and no spring crop will be grown. Grain stocks can´t be shipped to China, because the ship loading facilities are bombed.
>>> Russian farms do not get parts for their machinery (John Deere and Claas tractors and combines) because of the embargo. They will also not get any chemicals, because they are all from western countries.
>>> Ukraine and Russia made 1/3 of wheat world exports. We will probably see riots in many countries because of food shortage.
>>> From tomorrow on we will host 6 Ukrainians in the house of my deceased parents. On Saturday another Ukrainian mother with her 6 years old son will join our farm.
>>> This situation is absolutely the last, of which I would ever have dreamed of in my life.
>>> After 1945 we had 35 German refugees on our farm from 20 mio, who came. In 1992 we hosted a Volga German family from Russia with 5 people for a whole year, when 1 mio of them came to Germany. Today it’s the Ukrainians.
>>> The Ukrainians get work permit from the first day in Germany and full social coverage like medical care.
>>> Well, I see it positive and will give them a brush to paint my farm buildings. Germany has a shortage of more than a million workers.
>>> Stay healthy and safe,
😢
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
The word for mermaid in French is Sirene.
@D0rdogne_Damsel You posted earlier that you were thinking of volunteering to take in refugees from the Ukraine. I think that is very generous of you, but think again. You have a business that is coming into a very busy summer season and more importantly a teenage son, that needs 110% of your time!!
It is still pouring with rain here - when will it stop!!
@Obelixx I have a Lithuanian Cook Book if you'd like some idea, but you know, I think your guests would love to try your dishes, be they French or English.
@D0rdogne_Damsel I agree. It's a deal with no known end to it and you need to concentrate on Charlie and the business for now.
@Dovefromabove - nobody on the Beeb or other media refers to Paris as Paree or Brussels as Brussel (Flemish) or Bruxelles (Belgian French) but there are endless cases of further flung places who change government/become independent and suddenly have new names.
An example is that for almost all her adult life Ma was known by a nickname (Molly) given to her by the family nanny ... after her mother died, when Ma was almost in her 70s, she admitted that she hated being called Molly and wanted to be kinown by her proper name of Mary ... (which Pa had always called her) ... she eventually plucked up courage (she was very shy) and told their church minister who told everyone that she wanted to be known by the name she was baptised under which was Mary ... and from that day that's what all her friends called her ... there were a few slip ups to start with, but she really appreciated it.
As far as I'm concerned, if Ukranians would appreciate it if we call their capital by it's proper name, then that's what I'll call it. If Parisians would like me to pronounce Paris the French way I'll try to remember ... but to be honest I don't mind if French folk call London Londres ... but then we've not been occupied by another country for a very long time.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Hopefully the UK will start stepping up the number of refugees we can take sooner rather than later. If I had a bigger house I would certainly consider having a family here but sadly my house is far too small.
Glad you arrived safely @Busy-Lizzie - and hope you can get your laptop cranked up again soon. I would be totally lost without mine.
I'm envying you your cat-sitting @Pat E. We always had cats until our last one died but haven't since because of their horrible tendency to kill baby birds and their habit of sharpening their claws on the furniture.
Your hubby may not have realised that today was his birthday @Hostafan1 - but you knew. I remember someone asked why he kept visiting his wife with Alzheimer's when she had no idea who he was and he replied "But I know who she is".
We had a good old go at the community garden today. My bit was by a big patch of sweet violets (which we are leaving until they have finished, when they will be rehomed). It was lovely smelling that beautiful scent as I weeded nearby.
Quiet day for me under the shadow of The Black Dog.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.