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Are we fiddling while Rome burns?

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  • thevictorianthevictorian Posts: 1,279
    We need to remember the Russian propaganda machine has been running for decades, controlling the narrative. It seems the younger, more western influenced, generation are the ones that are protesting against the war and this really tells you everything you need to know. The people who have experienced more democratic culture are the ones more inclined to believe in it.

    Our media may have differing views on everything but you can get a balance. It's very hard to get a balanced perspective when free speach is banned. I don't know how it will be spun now more and more of the world are moving against them.  
  • Balgay.HillBalgay.Hill Posts: 1,089
    I hope i'm wrong, but i think this crisis has been manufactured by 'the west'. The US has been repeating that they won't defend Ukraine, so giving the green light to Russia to do as they want.
    As petrol prices rise in the US, voices will rise at home to 'do something' to sort it out. Compared to the US, Russia is a weak military force. A war with Russia will mean huge profits for the US arms manufacturers and their puppy the UK.
    Sunny Dundee
  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    The US has been repeating that they won't defend Ukraine, so giving the green light to Russia to do as they want.

    The west haven't forced Russia to invade Ukraine. They failed to deter them from doing it, but that is really not the same thing
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • thevictorianthevictorian Posts: 1,279
    Quite a bizarre conclusion that it's been manufactured by the West. It's true perhaps that a believed  weakness was spotted and they thought they could get away with an invasion but you can't blame anyone else for one man's war against the innocent. 

    The US is already looking for alternative sources for oil and gas, such as Venezuela, so there will be no appetite to escalate things with Russia. The reason no country is stepping foot in the Ukraine with military action is because no one wants another world war, especially not one with nuclear deterents.  
    Weapons manufacturers don't need a war as we've seen countries already pledging to step up their defence budgets astronomically. I think the biggest thing for the world will be that this keeps Russia quiet for years and sets their country back decades.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    @Balgay.Hill I'm still waiting for examples of the lies and propaganda you state the BBC has been spreading via Home Service.
    Devon.
  • Balgay.HillBalgay.Hill Posts: 1,089
    Hostafan1 said:
    @Balgay.Hill I'm still waiting for examples of the lies and propaganda you state the BBC has been spreading via Home Service.
    Search and you will find it. I can't open your eyes for you. My eyes were opened during the miners strike.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/22/orgreave-truth-police-miners-strike
    https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2017-07-26/miners-strike-1984-5-lies-damned-lies-and-press
    Sunny Dundee
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Is that the most recent you can come up with? 40 years ago?
    Another nutter for the handy "ignore" cupboard.
    Devon.
  • Balgay.HillBalgay.Hill Posts: 1,089
    Hostafan1 said:
    Is that the most recent you can come up with? 40 years ago?
    Another nutter for the handy "ignore" cupboard.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXQYuLUAbyw
    Sunny Dundee
  • Balgay.HillBalgay.Hill Posts: 1,089
    Nutter?  :D
    Sunny Dundee
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