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Are we fiddling while Rome burns?

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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    I don't think anyone is "obsessing" about it, but if crimes have taken place, they still need investigating
    Devon.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Hmm … when leaders think the rules don’t apply to them …  

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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    You're both right but I need to put that on the back burner for now 
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Did I just hear a lawyer on Radio4 talking about how he advises the uglinarks to handle the sanctions? Doesn't it seem vaguely wrong? We apply sanctions to hurt them, and then provide lawyers to find the loopholes in the sanctions.
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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147

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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    If you didn't hear on the radio, DEC have opened an appeal. The appeal is:

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  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,585
    Thanks for the link @steveTu :)
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    I donated money to charity last year through PayPal,   Thought it would be paid almost instantly,  after about 6 weeks had an email from PayPal saying my contribution had just been paid,  so if you want money to get there when it’s need, I would find another method. 
    Of course,  maybe they don’t work like that for all charities. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    I made a purchase using Paypal earlier this week and tacked on £1 to the Redcross to help in Ukraine. I was quite surprised to see that it takes 4-6 weeks for them to donate the money but from looking it up they seem to collect the money for a certain charity for a given time period and then donate it in one lump when the time period ends. I guess it saves on having multiple small transactions and reduces fees or something? I imagine larger charities allow for the time taken for donations to be processed though.
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    That would concern me. In the treasury at the BS where I worked, the overnight markets made a lot of money. So if the money leaves your account, but is delayed before it hits the target account,an organisation holding say, 1m donations at a £1 a throw, could be gaining overnight interest.

    I've used DEC for over a decade as I liked that it was a group of the most commonly used 'disaster' charities and saved me having to think about who to give my money to! If you monitor their site when 'stuff' happens around the world, they'll typically have an appeal at some point.


    As an aside, I was listening (as I do) to Radio4 again and the Russians are claiming that the west is scripting this 'military action' and painting them as the black hats (a bit like the red hats in the Box Trolls). Why has there not been a motion within the UN to put in observers? Not peacekeepers, but just observers who can monitor what is happening in Ukraine - and who can call upon camera and satellite imagery? If Russia vetoes the request, wouldn't that in itself speak volumes?
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