You don't have to prove you have the right to vote, you do have to prove you are who you say you are. I have never been asked for my identity at the Polling Station, which I think is odd. However if I was, I could show my photo card driving license. I understand a lot of people don't have these, so why not combine: Passport, Driving Licence, identity card and medical records?
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
I imagine the increase in immigration and the general rise in population over the years may have fuelled the call for a proper ID system in the UK. At present there are various ways and means of proving your ID but with the trend for going paperless along with people not renewing Passports or Driving Licences for whatever reason, it becomes evermore difficult and a single card may well be the best answer. What extras are included is always going to be open to argument but I can see the point about medical info as both @punkdoc and @Nanny Beach have pointed out. The world is moving on in technical terms so much faster now than even a decade ago - whether we agree or not, it IS likely to happen and little you can realistically do about it. Bow to the inevitable or risk losing your right to vote ? It's a choice many of us will need to consider
@punkdoc Totally - there should be one ID card and that card is just a link to your records (and you as the owner of that data should be able to see when, where and by whom that data has been accessed). That card should then be taken as proof of ID in any circumstance where you would currently have to prove ID.
Surely in this day and computer age when a lot of people have chosen paperless bills, (to save the environment) the authorities will have to accept a printed off bill. If you want to add something on your medical record can’t you tell your doctor you’re allergic to something? Is it at the moment accepted that you could add it yourself as Debs said she’d looked and couldn’t find a way to add it.
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Interesting some folk don't have paper bills as they have everything online. I won't do that, definitely wouldn't bank online or phone. My oldest son was the victim of ID fraud/theft. Shared house,thing came through the post, invitation for credit card. Someone else filled it in,in his name. Didn't pay of course,he had the devil's own job trying to prove it wasn't him
Interesting some folk don't have paper bills as they have everything online. I won't do that, definitely wouldn't bank online or phone. My oldest son was the victim of ID fraud/theft. Shared house,thing came through the post, invitation for credit card. Someone else filled it in,in his name. Didn't pay of course,he had the devil's own job trying to prove it wasn't him
Would paperless and online banking have increased or decreased such types of fraud? I suppose less paper from such companies coming through the door gives less opportunity to use such information in fraud. Puts it onus on bank to prove it was you not the other way around I reckon. Certainly seems to be the more electronic or technical the system is the more the banks give the consumer the benefit of the doubt by law and regulations.
I was also subject to a dodgy situation - I had no knowledge at all that my address was being used by someone else. When I did find out, the problem I had was that it was virtually impossible to talk to someone at the organisation (a bank) as I didn't have an account with them. Then, after I did get through, they wouldn't do anything because I didn't own the account that was using 'my' data - as according to them it was the other person's data - and according to them,data protection stopped them even talking about that data with me. How would you then get around that?
I ended up having to get the ICO involved.
I know people think I'm paranoid, but you really have to experience ID theft (or even as in my case partial data misuse) to understand how difficult it is to get it corrected - hence why, even though I'm all for ID cards, I think that the initial set up of the scheme must have the strictest procedures to ensure that the cards are 100% accurate (or as close to that as can be) with who they depict or else any poor sod who is subject to ID fraud at that stage will have a nightmare trying to get that resolved.
It is possible to access medical records if you have clearance for an nhs email address, these are given to medical professionals only I don’t have one but I do know people who are able to look at the medical records of other people and add information, vaccine status for example.
I won’t have to bow to the inevitable if enough people stand up against this ruling and I shouldn’t have to prove who I am with a government issued ID card in order to vote. There are no political parties I am aware of whom I would trust at the moment. I will struggle to vote in the next election but I will not give up my right to do so.
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I have never been asked for my identity at the Polling Station, which I think is odd. However if I was, I could show my photo card driving license.
I understand a lot of people don't have these, so why not combine: Passport, Driving Licence, identity card and medical records?
When you don't even know who's in the team
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At present there are various ways and means of proving your ID but with the trend for going paperless along with people not renewing Passports or Driving Licences for whatever reason, it becomes evermore difficult and a single card may well be the best answer.
What extras are included is always going to be open to argument but I can see the point about medical info as both @punkdoc and @Nanny Beach have pointed out.
The world is moving on in technical terms so much faster now than even a decade ago - whether we agree or not, it IS likely to happen and little you can realistically do about it. Bow to the inevitable or risk losing your right to vote ? It's a choice many of us will need to consider
Totally - there should be one ID card and that card is just a link to your records (and you as the owner of that data should be able to see when, where and by whom that data has been accessed). That card should then be taken as proof of ID in any circumstance where you would currently have to prove ID.
If you want to add something on your medical record can’t you tell your doctor you’re allergic to something? Is it at the moment accepted that you could add it yourself as Debs said she’d looked and couldn’t find a way to add it.
Would paperless and online banking have increased or decreased such types of fraud? I suppose less paper from such companies coming through the door gives less opportunity to use such information in fraud. Puts it onus on bank to prove it was you not the other way around I reckon. Certainly seems to be the more electronic or technical the system is the more the banks give the consumer the benefit of the doubt by law and regulations.
There are no political parties I am aware of whom I would trust at the moment. I will struggle to vote in the next election but I will not give up my right to do so.