How can you take a chap like that seriously, he’s dressed in pink,
Doesn't comform to gendered colouring. Good lad!
Of course when they first started to use gendered colours blue was considered a dainty colour for girls and pink a strong colour for men. Much, much later pink was considered closer to red a feminine colour so the two got swapped. It really got traction when prenatal gender identification came in.
Sorry but nobody has explained why they believe ID cards to vote are now necessary? Voter fraud is obviously not a serious issue so why change the system? I don’t trust this government as far as my 6 month old grandson could throw them so I am afraid I am looking for their agenda.
I don’t really care what forms of ID are carried in foreign countries because I live in Britain.
I am sure a lot of people would find an ID card useful but making them compulsory if you want to exercise the right to vote is a separate issue. Working class people and women suffered to get me a vote and I want to keep it. Give me one good reason to change the status quo.
Maybe, but maybe not. Proving a negative is extremely difficult. In 2019 just a handful of instances of voter fraud were identified and prosecuted. How many were not picked up? 10? 1000? 10,000? What number, @debs64, would lead you to conclude voter fraud is a serious issue?
It’s not so much a case of ‘if it’s not broke, don’t fix it’ more ‘well that ash tree looks all right from a distance’.
I am always interested in hearing how other countries do things and consciously look out for them while on holiday. A small illustration of that, small traffic lights at the eye level of the first driver waiting on red as practised in France.
I would want reliable figures and of course that won’t happen. I am not going to assume that there are lots of instances of voter fraud that haven’t been discovered any more than I assume there are a lot of man eating rabbits in the woods who are just good at hiding!
I think this government has its own devious reasons for everything they do and would need very strong evidence before I trust a word they say. Basically if Boris says yes I will say no. I will not happily give away my right to vote as I have all my life.
Just one extra point which I do not think has been mentioned yet. Since 2003 photo ID has been compulsory in Northern Ireland. There is no evidence it has had a deleterious effect on turnout
@debs64 There are no reliable figures because there are no reliable methods to spot it except when voting figures are well off what's expected and then someone investigates - an expensive exercise.
I don't understand why you don't want to know how other countries do things. After all, people learn from watching others and that applies to politics and laws. How often do politicians go off on "fact-finding" missions to inform decisions on how to implement new or improve old policies?
One of the main functions of this forum is to discuss and share better ways of growing plants, designing gardens, dealing with problems so we get better results.
Proving one's ID before voting would reduce voting fraud which I'm sure is a bigger problem than any returning officer wants to admit and is a lot simpler and cheaper than investigating a potential fraud and dealing with the consequences of corrupted voting results.
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Of course when they first started to use gendered colours blue was considered a dainty colour for girls and pink a strong colour for men. Much, much later pink was considered closer to red a feminine colour so the two got swapped. It really got traction when prenatal gender identification came in.
It’s not so much a case of ‘if it’s not broke, don’t fix it’ more ‘well that ash tree looks all right from a distance’.
I am always interested in hearing how other countries do things and consciously look out for them while on holiday. A small illustration of that, small traffic lights at the eye level of the first driver waiting on red as practised in France.
I don't understand why you don't want to know how other countries do things. After all, people learn from watching others and that applies to politics and laws. How often do politicians go off on "fact-finding" missions to inform decisions on how to implement new or improve old policies?
One of the main functions of this forum is to discuss and share better ways of growing plants, designing gardens, dealing with problems so we get better results.
Proving one's ID before voting would reduce voting fraud which I'm sure is a bigger problem than any returning officer wants to admit and is a lot simpler and cheaper than investigating a potential fraud and dealing with the consequences of corrupted voting results.