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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Which brings me to one of my hobby horses. Why don't women's clothes have pockets? I have only one jacket with an inside pocket.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    It takes more time to make and more fabric and is tricky with a lining so they're cutting costs.   
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    Obelixx said:
    It takes more time to make and more fabric and is tricky with a lining so they're cutting costs.   
    All of which is true for men's clothes but they do come with pockets.
    I think it's an assumption that women have handbags so won't notice the lack of pockets, and therefore the manufacturers can save the money and still sell stuff. If we all only bought the ones with pockets, it would change, soon enough.

    Why aren't women's trousers sold by waist measurement + leg length, as men's are? Far more sensible than the current assumption that all women have the same length legs
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    The only trousers I buy are jeans and the last pairs were from M&S in Nov 2014 on a trip to The Hague - leg shapes available but not lengths.   Much easier for me and my shape to make my own smart and/or casual trousers and then I can add pockets and I also like to put the zip in the back seam, not the front, as it lies better.


    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • NorthernJoeNorthernJoe Posts: 660
    Pockets on jeans for women too but possibly not able to use as women's clothing tends to come fitted shall we politely say. Can't use pockets when you're shoe horned into your over tight by design jeans.

    Besides I have jeans loose enough to have pockets I can use.  They're too full as it is. Also phones are too bulky. Even my old Samsung Nokia 3300 clone  makes my Jean pockets bulge out too much. My smartphone even pokes out the top of my back pockets, not that I put them there when out and about because its too easy to nick.

    I find myself more than jealous about the acceptability women have for being seen with a bag for carrying things when out and about. Man bags simply mark you out as less than manly in this country I reckon. Much, much more practical than pockets though. I mean, keys, wallet, phone,  tissues (allergies mean I do need them), etc. Then I'm also very analogue with organisation but where can I carry my journal planner? Women have handbags men only have pockets.

    Sorry! I'm being a curmudgeon over women complaining about pockets when they have bags which are more practical than pockets. Besides,  you can't all dance around your pockets on a night out!! ;)

  • NorthernJoeNorthernJoe Posts: 660
    Leg length? Men have short, regular and long. Or as I call them knee length shorts,  half masts and short lengths. I am 196cm tall but slim enough to not be able to wear the waist sizes that actually start to have real long leg lengths. You have to have a waist of 36" absolute minimum but more likely 40" before they up the leg length. 

    The sizing goes 33" for extra long leg length from about 28" waist up to 36" or bigger waist. You have leg length changing with waist lower down the sizing but suddenly that stops until you get a small increase in leg length at clown trouser sized waists. I know a guy who has 28" or possibly 30" waist but 193cm tall.  His trousers are all half mast. Now when I was younger that was true for kids clothes too. My son's gong through that now. I used to get hassle for half mast school trousers. Now it is apparently a style choice!!! Not for slim lankies it's not!

    Seriously,  if you think men have it good with trouser sizing you're wrong. There's no real choice for many men as men's sizings are based on ideals that never work in real life. Just like with women's clothing. A small choice is still no choice when they don't fit. 
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    NorthernJoe, school trousers at half mast is certainly not a style choice in at least one of our local schools.  There have been complaints to the local paper about kids being sent home, or put on detention, for having a gap between their trouser bottoms and their shoes.  Utterly ridiculous when you consider growth spurts which so many kids go through.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Don't be such a wuss @NorthernJoe.  Get yourself a man bag if you need one!   It could be very smart leather or a more casual canvas/rucksack style and not shorten your manhood.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    Also completely forgot important part of moving to smartphone,was necessary, because of Arthritis,hands, wrists, fingers, plus tenosynovitis, unable to press the buttons. I don't walk dogs with hand bag, friend of mine used to, looks very strange. Got a  bum bag,my jeans ,(mostly M &Small came with various leg lengths
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    husband used to have a 30" waist and 34 inside leg. 
    Same proportions with body / sleeve length.
    Paul Smith was the answer.
    Devon.
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