I’m a total amateur with roses. Have inherited 3 different types in the garden, an upright velvet red that doesn’t smell, a frilly magenta that smells lovely but not many blooms and a light pink that gets tall and has big heavy heads that smells good too. I also planted out my miniature pot rose in the garden.
April dryness and frost has killed some emerging shoots from some of my young roses. Should I prune those canes down further?
I’m sure I’ll have more questions as I’m determined this year to take better care of them.
One for @Marlorena I think. As you can see from the photo Marlorena my 'Tuscany Superb' is leafing up well, but it's all on the very top of the canes with very little sign of anything below emerging in most cases, which makes any unsupported canes top heavy and floppy. Is there anything can be done in the future to redress this issue.
@peteS ...yes, that's ok.. you can tie in that thin flexible lower cane to your obelisk with a bit of string, with the aim of twirling it around the obelisk keeping it above horizontal... it shouldn't break off and should encourage bud breaks lower down... the canes above look too rigid to do this so you will have to leave those and attempt to tie in any upward growth as you go along there.. You can leave some canes to go upright in the middle.. nothing wrong with that, but outer canes should be encourage to weave around the support..
..this is a different rose but of the old fashioned type.. as you can see by bending it around the support it's broken out all the way down to the ground with foliage... this is why I advocate planting outside the obelisk, not within.. it's easier to train things around it..
@Ilikeplants ...hello, nice to see you here too.. and looking forward to your roses this year... do tell us what you have, we like names.. ..without seeing a picture, from your description I would suggest you prune back those canes that have suffered, yes.. no problem with that.. I expect anyone else here would agree with this manoeuvre..
..might as well show some foliage whilst I'm here.. no blooms... the blue in the background is Brunnera 'Jack Frost', which I grow randomly.. 'Bathsheba'.. and 'Vanessa Bell'.. Austins have such great foliage, I can look at them happily without blooms to be honest.... which is just as well at the moment..
'Tottering by Gently'... about 5.5 feet so far.. very lovely single yellow.. ..nice basal on 'Desdemona'.. ..recently planted 'Sombreuil'.. from a pot.. of course the compost falls away as they're not really ready for planting, but that's ok, with lots of water and hydrating with the hose, it soon recovers... I'm really pleased with it, buds appearing too..
As always, very inspiring to see everyone's roses progress. Happily, mine seem to have survived the frost/drought - more than my Trachelospermum, which I think has had it. Feeling very depressed about it.
Interesting to read @Marlorena and @Mr. Vine Eye advice and comments on training climbers. I'd appreciate some further help, if you don't mind? I have a climbing Iceberg in its second year (bare root March 2020). It is planted on the outside of an obelisk, and I have started wrapping the canes round and tying them in - very good lateral breaks. My question is: what should I do next? Will the canes continue to grow so they can be tied in? Should I tie in the laterals as they grow (to get laterals on laterals)? I have had no new basal canes at all, so everything is originating from the two canes it came with.
It’s been a very long time since I posted on the lovely rose thread but I do read it often and admire everyone’s roses very much.
Gabriel Oak looking great and has buds forming. Still in a pot.
Kew Gardens in the ground
Munstead Wood has been moved for the 3rd time, now back in a pot. Sexy Rexy is looking very glossy. I pulled off around 4 of leaves that had a touch of black spot. It’s the only rose to have some BS - so far anyway.
Scepter’d Isle is approaching 5ft tall but is leggy and bare at the bottom, new stems are thin and wispy. Perhaps it needs to be moved to a sunnier position (currently north facing) or I’ve not pruned it well. I have a cane supporting one stem that was almost in the ground from the wind.
Went to plot today, I fixed up some damage to the polytunnel cover where stitching had been torn, especially around the door zip, by gorilla taping and then re-sewing.
Desperately getting seeds sown in the polytunnel for things we really want before we run out of time. We've ended up being really late with everything of course.
Giving the boys their own areas to plant in so they can grow whatever they like and plant it wherever they like in there.
Our youngest chose everything that had yellow flowers on the packet 😄
@Pianoplayer ..you will have to tie in those laterals somewhat to make it look attractive and to control its wide spreading nature... ... if they are short laterals I let them flower and then prune them back by at least half or back to 2 buds off the framework... it can look a bit contrived and fussy if you try to train shorter laterals to get more laterals... it's not a look I like personally, add on the fact they need pruning back after flowering... If you have some long lateral growth, like over 2 feet, then I might keep that as part of the framework.. I hope that makes sense, it's difficult to be concise on this..
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...yes, that's ok.. you can tie in that thin flexible lower cane to your obelisk with a bit of string, with the aim of twirling it around the obelisk keeping it above horizontal... it shouldn't break off and should encourage bud breaks lower down... the canes above look too rigid to do this so you will have to leave those and attempt to tie in any upward growth as you go along there..
You can leave some canes to go upright in the middle.. nothing wrong with that, but outer canes should be encourage to weave around the support..
..this is a different rose but of the old fashioned type.. as you can see by bending it around the support it's broken out all the way down to the ground with foliage... this is why I advocate planting outside the obelisk, not within.. it's easier to train things around it..
...hello, nice to see you here too.. and looking forward to your roses this year... do tell us what you have, we like names..
..without seeing a picture, from your description I would suggest you prune back those canes that have suffered, yes.. no problem with that.. I expect anyone else here would agree with this manoeuvre..
'Bathsheba'.. and 'Vanessa Bell'.. Austins have such great foliage, I can look at them happily without blooms to be honest.... which is just as well at the moment..
'Tottering by Gently'... about 5.5 feet so far.. very lovely single yellow..
..nice basal on 'Desdemona'..
..recently planted 'Sombreuil'.. from a pot.. of course the compost falls away as they're not really ready for planting, but that's ok, with lots of water and hydrating with the hose, it soon recovers... I'm really pleased with it, buds appearing too..
Interesting to read @Marlorena and @Mr. Vine Eye advice and comments on training climbers. I'd appreciate some further help, if you don't mind? I have a climbing Iceberg in its second year (bare root March 2020). It is planted on the outside of an obelisk, and I have started wrapping the canes round and tying them in - very good lateral breaks. My question is: what should I do next? Will the canes continue to grow so they can be tied in? Should I tie in the laterals as they grow (to get laterals on laterals)? I have had no new basal canes at all, so everything is originating from the two canes it came with.
Thanks as ever for advice.
Munstead Wood has been moved for the 3rd time, now back in a pot. Sexy Rexy is looking very glossy. I pulled off around 4 of leaves that had a touch of black spot. It’s the only rose to have some BS - so far anyway.
Scepter’d Isle is approaching 5ft tall but is leggy and bare at the bottom, new stems are thin and wispy. Perhaps it needs to be moved to a sunnier position (currently north facing) or I’ve not pruned it well. I have a cane supporting one stem that was almost in the ground from the wind.
GG is starting its third year now
Went to plot today, I fixed up some damage to the polytunnel cover where stitching had been torn, especially around the door zip, by gorilla taping and then re-sewing.
Desperately getting seeds sown in the polytunnel for things we really want before we run out of time. We've ended up being really late with everything of course.
Giving the boys their own areas to plant in so they can grow whatever they like and plant it wherever they like in there.
Our youngest chose everything that had yellow flowers on the packet 😄
This one's new favourite spot.
..you will have to tie in those laterals somewhat to make it look attractive and to control its wide spreading nature...
... if they are short laterals I let them flower and then prune them back by at least half or back to 2 buds off the framework... it can look a bit contrived and fussy if you try to train shorter laterals to get more laterals... it's not a look I like personally, add on the fact they need pruning back after flowering...
If you have some long lateral growth, like over 2 feet, then I might keep that as part of the framework..
I hope that makes sense, it's difficult to be concise on this..