EdeH is reputed to grow to 20ft @celcius_kkw! so you might be grateful for small mercies. Mine has just topped the trellis, (wall + fence + trellis = abt 10ft) after being cut right down to about 3ft in 2019 for the new fence/trellis to be erected. It's not in the best position either, east facing wall and probably planted too close to the wall (before I knew any better), rubbish thick clay soil and too near a very mature birch tree. I'm just grateful for any flowers!
There's Kew Gardens at my plot. It's looking good for a 1-2 year old cutting I think. Not that I have anything to compare seems comparable to a first year bare root grafted.
Wouldn't believe the quantity of horsetail and bindweed that came out of that planting hole!
My banksiae rose is looking glorious at the moment, and near it the Dunwich rose is coming into flower. I love the v.pale yellow of both of these. And happy that the Dunwich survived being dug up from where I didn't want it and moved to where I did.
I wasn’t in the garden yesterday evening (rain!) or today as we had a daytrip walking up a lovely gorge, so missed this new rose coming out - another Tantau, HT Deep Secret. Lovely buds, open bloom and good fragrance. As you can see in the second photo, one cane is heading skywards, but otherwise its good and bushy:
@Katsa, Could your Proper Job have suffered during the very dry April? Small leaves and miserable foliage generally is a sign of drought and/or a hungry rose - if it’s dry it can’t take up nutrients effectively. I would just leave it in the pot unless it’s outgrown it, give it plenty of water, poured in slowly at first to really wet the compost and a seaweed foliar drench as a pick-me-up. Obviously feed it some slow-release granules or similar if you haven’t already.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
I put Deep Secret and Papa Meilland both in last year in absurd places, far too close under extant climbing roses, but happily they are alive leafing, if tiny.
I do find with roses more than any other plants that what you get out of them is in direct correlation to what you put in, by way of food and water. Of course there are some that are hungrier than others, the higher the petal count the more ravenous they seem to be. I could probably totally ignore Julia Child, Warm Welcome, Astronomia and Stormy Weather and they would carry on blooming regardless, but woe betide if I ignore the Austins or other fuller-petalled roses.
Does anyone else find this?
Where do HTs sit in this regard?
I’m also thinking, @Fire, with extra food and water you might get away with less than ideal planting positions?
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Interesting observations @Nollie, esp around the petal count. I don't have enough experience or enough roses to draw any wide conclusions. I haven't used much liquid feed on roses until last year and have relied mostly on annual manuring for adding nutrition (though I will start adding liquid more feed because I think it does make a terrific difference).
In my gardens I can definitely say that adding water makes a noticable differerence in new growth within 48 hours of a good soak through the summer either via rain or via me. This is true of my dwarf fruit trees too, even though they have been in the ground 3-8 years. I then feel bad that they don't get the water they want, and I feel daft for never learning the lesson.
Nearly all my rose planting is squashed into small spaces, between planters, too close to walls, pipes, and hedges, so, yes, they need all the extra help they can get in the way of good practice (that I read here), water and food. I also knew nothing at all when I moved into my current house, so I am correcting earlier mistakes (or trying to) as I go along.
@Nollie HTs I have lots of and you could probably ignore and theyd be fine! I only started feeding mine properly last year and only watered when very dry and theyve always been fine. That said feeding them has massively boosted colour, foliege and scent!
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There's Kew Gardens at my plot. It's looking good for a 1-2 year old cutting I think. Not that I have anything to compare seems comparable to a first year bare root grafted.
Wouldn't believe the quantity of horsetail and bindweed that came out of that planting hole!
Rhapsody in blue just beats eyes for you as my first fully open rose of 2021! Totally out of the blue too, thats shot up last few days!
@Katsa, Could your Proper Job have suffered during the very dry April? Small leaves and miserable foliage generally is a sign of drought and/or a hungry rose - if it’s dry it can’t take up nutrients effectively. I would just leave it in the pot unless it’s outgrown it, give it plenty of water, poured in slowly at first to really wet the compost and a seaweed foliar drench as a pick-me-up. Obviously feed it some slow-release granules or similar if you haven’t already.
Does anyone else find this?
Where do HTs sit in this regard?
I’m also thinking, @Fire, with extra food and water you might get away with less than ideal planting positions?