@Lena_vs_Deer - I don't know the rose myself. I was just researching it.
@Sammymummy - I think Etoile is a rose that likes sun. The specialist growers will tell you which roses are happy in more shade (like a north wall) and which like full sun. With more shade, yes, Etoile will just reach. It should be possible to take Etoile up and give it away.
The good sites will tell you the rose reach at maturity as well. I find David Austin's site gives the more extensive listing of important info. Look for what kind of a space the rose is good for - it will list obelisk, wall, arch, hedge etc.
Well the rains have finally arrived, so what had been a great month in these parts for my roses, has now turned into a sodden, drooping mess. More supports needed for next year I think.
Harlow Carr after a great month of untypical upward facing blooms, reverting back to type, and Chianti, still looking fab a couple of days a go, now looking a bit sad with broken canes.
Paul Zimmerman's new vid on deadheading was posted here this week. I have to say that I find his explanations overly simple. In his various vids on climbing roses, he makes a clear distinction - "there are two types of canes: a 'main cane' that comes from the base" and a 'lateral', that come off the main canes, which he is always clear to stress. I don't find my climbers work like that at all. It's a lot more complicated.
Stems that act like "main canes" often don't come from the base at all. You can get a main cane coming off a main cane.
I also find that there can be clusters of roses at the end of a lateral that can come quite far down, not just as a floof of blooms at the tip. If I dead head the whole top too soon, I can cut off potential growth
My garden is a sodden drooping mess too @peteS, sorry about the damage caused, hope you can recover them.
I have a year one Highgrove @JessicaS. Can't really speak for it as a climber as mine is a tiddler and I am going to try and grow it as a shrub. It's not overwhelmed with rainfall as you can see and it is in a sheltered corner against the house. Photo isn't quite the correct colour, its a burgundy-red.
Mine isn't letting me upload today @newbie77, this isn't the first time. My workaround is to send them to the Whatsapp group I share just with my husband and download them from there. It does mean my husband gets endless rose pics which he has to look at in case it is actually a message from me EDIT; sorry I use a laptop as part of this exercise, I just reread and you don't use one.
I just did this photo like that! Pic of my 2 seedlings from a Carminia hip and a cutting from Charles Darwin, the shoot at the base is new. I guess my rose tally goes up by 3 But when you think this Chandos Beauty Rose cost 4.50 Euro it is a really cheap container plant with a big impact. If only I could bring myself to see roses as annuals.
I was watching a Paul Zimmerman / Michael Marriott video where they say some rose types are nigh on impossible to get to root from cuttings. Maybe I have just been trying the hard ones and having no luck at all.
I've not had any rose cuttings work before @Fire. I only attempt it with an accidentally snapped off bit, at whatever time of year, so my expectations are low. But compared to other plants it does seem difficult.
@Sammymummy I guess my opinion is different from the majority here but I don't see it as too vigorous or overgrown. In fact, I would want more canes, I would tie them in much more densely, with the aim to hide every inch of that wall and letting it grow over the wall, layering it on that step there and covering the top part too. Also, I am not completely against crossing branches or tieing canes together (experienced rose growers do it all the time). On the other hand, Fire could be right about it not flowering much because of the shade.
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Harlow Carr after a great month of untypical upward facing blooms, reverting back to type, and Chianti, still looking fab a couple of days a go, now looking a bit sad with broken canes.
My garden is a sodden drooping mess too @peteS, sorry about the damage caused, hope you can recover them.
I have a year one Highgrove @JessicaS. Can't really speak for it as a climber as mine is a tiddler and I am going to try and grow it as a shrub. It's not overwhelmed with rainfall as you can see and it is in a sheltered corner against the house. Photo isn't quite the correct colour, its a burgundy-red.
I dont have a personal laptop, only work laptop. I will start putting photos once a week using DH's laptop.
I have noticed there is quite an increase in ant population in the garden. Any idea how to reduce it? If i water more frequently would they go away?
On the other hand, Fire could be right about it not flowering much because of the shade.