Welcome @dabolem to the rose fanatics corner. 😁 There are many very knowledgeable people on here, who I am sure will help ( they have helped me) The sawflies must be bad this year, as I have them on my roses for the first time, so you are not alone. Hope you enjoy your time with us.
I’ll point out that the only 2 roses that were almost untouched by this awfully hot summer, sawflies and aphids and are blooming even now, are the Austin ones:
Mortimer Sackler
Tess of the d’Uberville
I fell in love with Austin’s roses, I am planning to have all or them, lol. Those two are only 2 years old and they started blooming as soon as put in the soil, they grew very very fast and never had a problem!
Completely defoliated by sawfly worms: Cocktail, Open Arms, Castore, and Polluce.
My M.me Alfred Carriere is at his 3rd year and I’ve only saw some bloom till now, is that normal? It’s grown very big, but very few flowers, and very small ones at that.
The Desprez a fleur Jaunes is at his 2nd year but didn’t grow at all. I put it by one of the front porch pillars because I read it was a fast growing rose, instead it’s still exactly as it was when I bought it. I am very disappointed.
Clair Matin is a very satisfying rose, instead, it grows reasonably fast and blooms in flushes, but this year the worms got their part of it, unfortunately.
Lavender Lassie and Lawinia: no blooms at all, I suspect I put them in a too much shady spot, I’ll move them to a sunnier spot as soon as possible. Can you tell me some roses’s name more shade tolerant?
Belle Vichyssoise, on the other side of an arch opposed to MAC, few blooms due to sawfly warms
...yes, warm welcome @dabolem.. great to have an international presence... we enjoy lots of photos, so if you have a rose to show, we would love to see it, even those we cannot get here... it does not matter what your garden looks like..
Do you buy your roses locally? I only know of La Campanella and S'Orrosa nurseries in Italy but I think they are to the south, maybe near Rome..
I have tried some Tantau roses, some I like more than others... I have found a nice one in 'Pink Martini'.. very pleased with this rose so far..
Happy reading.. your English is very good.. so, Ciao for now..
.. glad you're getting some interest in roses from visitors, that's always nice.. ..about Purple Skyliner in a pot.. well, you can grow anything in a pot for a limited period, and if the pot is large enough, then you could keep it going for a while, but in time it will become tedious to maintain and you will not see the rose at its best... I've only grown it south facing, but it would not concern me to grow north facing if that's the only option..
... it will want to grow larger than stated but not so big as its parent 'Veilchenblau'.. I hope you manage to get it in the ground at some point..
Do you buy your roses locally? I only know of La Campanella and S'Orrosa nurseries in Italy but I think they are to the south, maybe near Rome..
Thank you! I buy mostly online, there are very good nurseries to buy on: Rose Barni (who are also rose breeder and created many new kinds), Mondorose, Rose.it, Nino Sanremo (who only sells roses from cutting, so on their own roots), Le Rose del Borghetto and many others. La Campanella was very good but unfortunately closed last year
unfortunately we can no more buy directly from David Austin or other Uk nurseries, so I will have to see which Austin’s roses I can buy from Italy or other European Countries. I am so sad about it, but alas.
I'm sorry to hear La Campanella closed.. they had a good selection of roses I liked.. I do not know the others, maybe Rose.it.. I think some members here have ordered from that place, I'm not sure.. I like roses on own roots too.
@mummybeeleeYa6QsPRB sounds as if you have some competing needs to balance there so I shouldn’t be encouraging you on the border creep front 😆
I think I will order BdeN and see how it goes in a pot first. It may well get taller and wider here but I never know until I try @Omori. The ‘offending’ pink rose is Rose de Molinard which hasn’t helped itself by being pretty awful this year, lots of dieback, poor, damaged blooms. Shame, as it’s a one of the best rose fragrances in the garden, so for that reason I’m determined to give it another year!
@dabolem hello and welcome from me, I am delighted you have joined us. I wonder how similar our climates are? I garden in the North of Spain, where the summers regularly reach 30-40ºC, winters are short but can be very cold (I am in the mountains). I have periods when it is very dry but sometimes suffer very heavy rains with high humidity. It is a challenging environment to grow roses and I have been experimenting with lots of different ones over the last five years. Some are more successful than others!
If, like me, you have hot summers, you should expect your roses to be better in Spring and Autumn. They will be happier with morning sun, but sheltered from the fierce sun of the afternoon. They will also need good soil, regular feeding and long, deep watering at least three times every week. I find Austin roses to be especially hungry and thirsty, but if you treat them well, some cope well with heat. Munstead Wood and Gertrude Jekyll are very good roses for me. It’s very interesting for me to hear that Mortimer Sackler and Tess of the d’Ubervilles are good Austin roses for you. I began growing Austin and other modern roses, but now I am choosing more old garden roses like Bourbons, Polyanthas, Teas and Noisettes.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Nollie, I am in the middle of Pianura Padana, very hot and humid in the summer and cold winters, though lately the winters has become milder, we rarely got snow and below zero temps. I am lucky because my house is in the middle of a big Park, there’s also a river in front of my house and I am surrounded by little canals, so I can beneficiate of a very good microclimate which seems good for roses.
Even in this very very hot summer, temps here were always some degrees less then the neighboroogh, we didn’t go over the 30 celsius degree.
If you think that M.Sackler and Tess are on a wall facing West, although with some shade from three poplars in front of my garden, and they take all the afternoon sun and hot, you can’t believe they are very well and blooms like mad. I water them just once a week! I found they are growing better than other roses here, despite having heard that English rose are not suitable for Italian hot climate. That’s why I want to try some others 😊
i am waiting for a Phyllis Bide that will go on an arch in front of the porch. Has anybody experience with this rose? I thought to put a Purple Skyliner on the other side of the arch, but somebody told me that P.Bide grows very big and there will be no space left on the arch for another rose. Is that true in your opinion?
Sorry to go on about my quest for a fragrant, white shrub rose again: ...but has anyone grown Claire Austin as shrub, rather than a climber? If so, did it work out or was it a leggy gangly mess?, anyone have any experience or thoughts?
Rickyjones24 I don’t know about Claire Austin, but a friend of mine has the Pierre Arditi, a beautiful and fragrant white rose shrub. Somebody says it’s the best white rose shrub to be had in the garden.
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There are many very knowledgeable people on here, who I am sure will help ( they have helped me)
The sawflies must be bad this year, as I have them on my roses for the first time, so you are not alone.
Hope you enjoy your time with us.
Mortimer Sackler
Tess of the d’Uberville
My M.me Alfred Carriere is at his 3rd year and I’ve only saw some bloom till now, is that normal? It’s grown very big, but very few flowers, and very small ones at that.
The Desprez a fleur Jaunes is at his 2nd year but didn’t grow at all. I put it by one of the front porch pillars because I read it was a fast growing rose, instead it’s still exactly as it was when I bought it. I am very disappointed.
Clair Matin is a very satisfying rose, instead, it grows reasonably fast and blooms in flushes, but this year the worms got their part of it, unfortunately.
Lavender Lassie and Lawinia: no blooms at all, I suspect I put them in a too much shady spot, I’ll move them to a sunnier spot as soon as possible. Can you tell me some roses’s name more shade tolerant?
Belle Vichyssoise, on the other side of an arch opposed to MAC, few blooms due to sawfly warms
Do you buy your roses locally? I only know of La Campanella and S'Orrosa nurseries in Italy but I think they are to the south, maybe near Rome..
I have tried some Tantau roses, some I like more than others... I have found a nice one in 'Pink Martini'.. very pleased with this rose so far..
Happy reading.. your English is very good.. so, Ciao for now..
.. glad you're getting some interest in roses from visitors, that's always nice..
..about Purple Skyliner in a pot.. well, you can grow anything in a pot for a limited period, and if the pot is large enough, then you could keep it going for a while, but in time it will become tedious to maintain and you will not see the rose at its best... I've only grown it south facing, but it would not concern me to grow north facing if that's the only option..
... it will want to grow larger than stated but not so big as its parent 'Veilchenblau'.. I hope you manage to get it in the ground at some point..
unfortunately we can no more buy directly from David Austin or other Uk nurseries, so I will have to see which Austin’s roses I can buy from Italy or other European Countries. I am so sad about it, but alas.
I think I will order BdeN and see how it goes in a pot first. It may well get taller and wider here but I never know until I try @Omori. The ‘offending’ pink rose is Rose de Molinard which hasn’t helped itself by being pretty awful this year, lots of dieback, poor, damaged blooms. Shame, as it’s a one of the best rose fragrances in the garden, so for that reason I’m determined to give it another year!
@dabolem hello and welcome from me, I am delighted you have joined us. I wonder how similar our climates are? I garden in the North of Spain, where the summers regularly reach 30-40ºC, winters are short but can be very cold (I am in the mountains). I have periods when it is very dry but sometimes suffer very heavy rains with high humidity. It is a challenging environment to grow roses and I have been experimenting with lots of different ones over the last five years. Some are more successful than others!
If, like me, you have hot summers, you should expect your roses to be better in Spring and Autumn. They will be happier with morning sun, but sheltered from the fierce sun of the afternoon. They will also need good soil, regular feeding and long, deep watering at least three times every week. I find Austin roses to be especially hungry and thirsty, but if you treat them well, some cope well with heat. Munstead Wood and Gertrude Jekyll are very good roses for me. It’s very interesting for me to hear that Mortimer Sackler and Tess of the d’Ubervilles are good Austin roses for you. I began growing Austin and other modern roses, but now I am choosing more old garden roses like Bourbons, Polyanthas, Teas and Noisettes.
I am lucky because my house is in the middle of a big Park, there’s also a river in front of my house and I am surrounded by little canals, so I can beneficiate of a very good microclimate which seems good for roses.
i am waiting for a Phyllis Bide that will go on an arch in front of the porch. Has anybody experience with this rose? I thought to put a Purple Skyliner on the other side of the arch, but somebody told me that P.Bide grows very big and there will be no space left on the arch for another rose. Is that true in your opinion?
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