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The New ROSE Season 2021...

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @cooldoc2000
    ...I expect we all do something different, but I feed all my roses...  the very largest I probably give a bit more than the others as I'm spreading it over a greater area..  it is sometimes advised to give half measure to newly planted bare roots... 

    ...depending on fertilizer a usual dose is 60gr for established roses and 30gr for new bare roots..    twice a year.... for potted roses I only do the 30gr as I'm going to be liquid feeding...
    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    oh lovely @JessicaS
    ... some good foliage choices... I've always wanted Brother Cadfael, as it's virtually thornless isn't it?..  I don't worry about black spot too much.. 

    Bassett friendly !.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @Marlorena Thank you, I have two of them, the other one in the border with Kiss me Kate. Both from ukgardensupplies.
  • DitsyDitsy Posts: 196
    Two questions please: How are bare root roses kept dormant?  When we buy them this time of year surely they would of started growing.

    Someone I know sprays their roses with a garlic water mix to prevent disease. Is this recommended?

    All this knowledge here is fascinating. :smile:
  • cooldoccooldoc Posts: 853
    thank you@Marlorena I guess I will feed them eventually, once a new leaf appears.
    A rose lover from West midlands
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    You have all been busy in the garden I see! Meanwhile, we had a day out and lunch on the beach yesterday to celebrate restrictions being eased and being able to leave our local area. The sea was calm, the sun was shining and the seafood was excellent 🏖 😎 

    @JessicaS you have some beautiful roses there, some I don’t know at all, so can’t wait to see those.

    @Ditsy some use cold storage to keep them dormant, but I have certainly received bare roots already budding. Yes you can make a solution of garlic paste to spray roses, I believe it does help, but never tried it, maybe someone else here has. Planting garlic/chives next to roses is meant to deter pests and I do plant chives with them.

    Found this DA planting distance guide for their shrub roses tucked into a gardening book. With one trio I planted closer than recommended as I knew the architecture of that DA rose (less bushy) needed it. I also used these distances for a floribunda trio but really, they are too close together, so it does depend on the growth habits of the individual rose. Gives you an idea anyway:



    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • I'm just trialling something with my old roses that I've seen done in France--I hope I can pull it off. As I have very little space I am winding the canes tightly around an obelisk and tying them in as I go, in hopes of encouraging lateral shoots with plenty of flowers. Will report back!

    @Ditsy, I am unconvinced by the principle of garlic water, but if it works, let us know. As to the bare root roses--this is absolutely the end of the season for planting them in this form and they will have developed buds on, but should still grow. Better though to plant them in autumn, as their roots can develop while the soil remains warm (as with all woody plants). But roses are very easy-going. I have seen whole plants in flower being moved without turning a hair, though I wouldn't recommend it!

  • Nollie said:
    Oh could be, thanks @Omori. I shall have to observe more closely, I could have sworn they were alive, but that might have been a fertile imagination!

    Interesting video @Bright star, thanks. Good to see old practices vindicated, i.e the box planting method and marigolds - @Marlorena mentioned the ground cleaning properties of those last year I think. Equally that just sprinkling the m. fungi in the hole is not effective. I tend to do both soil replacement and the fungi sprinkling just in case. I wish I had seen the video and known about putting the fungi in the pots before I potted up my bareroot roses!  I’m growing them on first before planting out, some in old rose locations.

    @Bright star, @Nollie
    I went back to that video link in YouTube but it's been deleted. I would love the gist of what it is you're supposed to do instead of just sprinkling the mycorrhizal fungi into the planting hole, for future reference.
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