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The New ROSE Season 2021...

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ..so, let's have the lowdown... @edhelka
    @Omori
    @iaincd
    ...what did you get...?.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • D0rdogne_DamselD0rdogne_Damsel Posts: 4,184
    edited April 2021
    Morning all,

    I am looking for some advice about a rambling rose I have, I am sorry I do not have the name, it was in the garden when I arrived. Last year I had to have a major clearout of a very overgrown area of the garden and this rose had to be cut back really, really hard to get to all the other stuff (miles and miles of honeysuckles and Campsis as well as brambles and stinging nettles above my head). 

    Anyway, the area is now clear and happily there are lots of healthy looking shoots coming out of this rose. So, the question is, how can I prevent it getting completely out of control again. I am keeping on top of the weeds, I have mulched the area well, given the rose lots of well rotted manure but it is the height this rose manages to reach that is my worry. It is set against a trellis pergola, ideally I would like to tie in the new shoots to the roof of the trellis, but I am not sure how to do this without damaging the rose or how to do it to make the best of any potential blooms. 

    There is also quite a bit of moss on the trellis, which I quite like and think it makes it look very natural, but is this good or bad for the rose, should I brush it all off or is it irrelevant? 

    The rose is about 10 years old, you can see how big the stems are, have I cut enough off, there are new shoots all the way up the stems? Thank you in anticipation for any advice and forgive my ignorance. :blush:




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  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    I have a couple Anemone 'Whirlwind' that I put in last year in some tricky spots, hoping they settle in and spread a bit. 

    From MacPlants I ordered 1 of each of the following, planning on growing them on and propagating them for more plants down the line...

    Artemisia ludoviciana 'Valerie Finnis' 

    Aster 'Little Carlow' 

    Campanula lactiflora 'Loddon Anna' 

    Cenolophium denudatum 

    Epilobium angustifolium 'Album' - invasive but this is to go in the wild part of the front garden where I have the pink form of it growing, along with long grass, nettles, a log pile, etc. Trying to make this area look a bit more aesthetically pleasing as my partner is not too keen  :D

    Gillenia trifoliata 

    Kniphofia 'Tawny King' 

    Monarda 'Beauty of Cobham' 

    Persicaria affinis 'Superba' 

    Phlox paniculata 'White Admiral' 

    Sidalcea 'Elsie Heugh' 

  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @Omori
    Oh nice selection.. I've only had a couple of those, the Phlox and the Persicaria... don't know the others.. I do love Sidalceas though, I think I've got some coming from that SE Horticultural..   the Persicaria is so useful for border frontage, it spreads quickly I found..

    @D0rdogne_Damsel
    .. without seeing the foliage or blooms, or knowing the name of the rose, I'm giving somewhat blind, generic advice, but if a true rambler then the new shoots should be flexible enough for you to train across the top and tie in with string...  after the first, or only flush, prune it back then, as much as you want, or just take the laterals out, then tie back in the new growth when it comes... there are several options.. you can even leave it till winter and take the laterals back then..
    ... those canes are very thick.. if it was mine, and if a true rambler, I would be cutting it down to near ground level after the main flush of blooms, about 2 feet up,  and start out again with it..  they all bloom better from young, fresh green wood..
    As for now, we need to see what the flowers and foliage are like... 

    Don't worry about the moss, unless you think it unsightly.. I would want to brush it off as much as possible as it's a nice seating area.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • Thank you for your speedy response @Marlorena. I have just found this old photograph, from quite a few years ago....perhaps it might help....

    • “Coffee. Garden. Coffee. Does a good morning need anything else?” —Betsy Cañas Garmon
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    I've not had huge success with crocosmia. Mine grows then starts to form flower buds, then goes all brown. Then that's it. 

    It's returned again this year though. It obviously isn't happy where it is! I'll need to move it or improve the soil.
    East Yorkshire
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    You all are big enablers. I have been telling myself I wont buy any perennials, they dont last long but eventually gave up. I ordered some red echinacea and blue penestemon from SE. I was thinking, I have plenty of roses so only colour I should look for are blue/purple. But somehow when I see catalogue, blue and purple things are never like wow I really really want it. I had added so many blue things to basket and still ended up with red echinacea and removed those blues because I didnt have budget. 
    South West London
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    I've not had huge success with crocosmia. Mine grows then starts to form flower buds, then goes all brown. Then that's it. 

    It's returned again this year though. It obviously isn't happy where it is! I'll need to move it or improve the soil.
    For me it is just luck. When I plant bulbs anywhere they are lost by next year. The ones I inherit are in a dark corner, even if I dig out a lot of them to make space for something else, they keep coming back to make large clump. they arent bad, just flop over everything around it later in season.
    South West London
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @Tack
    ..nice list of Clems... I have 14 here but none of those, so looking forward to seeing yours..  if the Apple Blossom is an Armandii, then I've had that one previously, also Arabella..    Cassandra looks nice..

    @D0rdogne_Damsel
    Ok.. thanks for the picture, it's all a bit fuzzy and distant, so almost impossible to tell from that, but having zoomed in a bit, the foliage and blooms remind of what are known as the Dorothy Perkins class of ramblers.. and yours is reminiscent of one called 'Ethel'.. which is popular in France, grown in public gardens and offered by nurseries there..

    If you take a look at this picture and tell me what you think, if it looks similar or not..
    but we will have to wait for close ups of foliage and blooms really..
    https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.311542

    ..looks secluded and cosy there..
    East Anglia, England
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