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  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Plastics getting ridiculous lately,  how long has sugar been packed in plastic bags? Always has been in paper. There’s more of it about than ever,  what should we do, refuse to buy it? 
    Bag of flour, in a plastic bag, always been in paper.

    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    Lyn said:
    Plastics getting ridiculous lately,  how long has sugar been packed in plastic bags?
    Suspiciously about as long as the sale of plastic shopping bags has been restricted. I've no doubt that all the plastic destined for carrier bags has been put to good use elsewhere with no real reduction in plastic production, or shareholder profit. I've spent years trying to avoid unrecycleable plastics and it's harder now to refuse the stuff as it seems to be getting sneaked in everywhere. They can write it off as reducing food waste through better packaging or responding to customer demand but big companies have invested a lot of money into making plastic packaging and they're not going to stop while the online shopping boom is underway. Go to any supermarket and you'll see plastic wrapped multipacks for a better price than buying individually. You're discouraged from putting them into a plastic bag when you've bought them but the packaging companies, product manufacturers and supermarkets have no such restrictions on the plastic they use.

    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    We must be behind the times here then @Lyn - both of those are still paper in my local supermarket. Complete with the holes for it to fall out of  :D
    I could see them making a case for it to be used, just because of that  :/
    As someone whose ex partner dealt with companies supplying supermarkets with it [he was in a slightly different industry]  you'd be horrified if you knew more about the plastic packaging industry. I doubt it's changed much at all. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • HeliosHelios Posts: 232
    I’ve just found that when Tesco do online deliveries your option is to have all the items loose in the (clean?) tray or pay for the option of a ‘tray liner/bags’. The latter option consists of a large shallow plastic bag which fits the tray and which isn’t, according to Tesco when I asked them, recyclable. 
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    What we use in plastic bags bags is nothing compare to industry,  it’s not just the sugar in the bag I object to, it’s so difficult to use,  each time I get it everywhere, I think because the bag is floppy.   The flour the same but I had a big tub to decant that into. 

    I have tesco delivery, about the only ones who will deliver to me, I refuse to pay 40p. a week for that liner, it doesn’t take a minute to take the shopping out of the tray. During the crisis it was in white carriers no charge,  I’ve got loads of them but do use them for bin liners so at least that’s something. 

    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Took me a while to get used t the range of sugar in France as it's different in Belgium.   I first came across sugar in plastic bags when we moved here.  It's quite sturdy so doesn't flop and has a pourer nozzle.  Then, fortunately, I found some in cardboard boxes and it's fine ground cane sugar as opposed to chunky demerara so that's what I use all the time.  Don't like white sugar anyway.

    Flour still comes in paper bags or thin cardboard boxes but I have yet to find my preferred wholemeal in stock in domestic sizes since the beginning of lockdown.

    Have been using long life reinforced plastic shopping bags for years, or collapsible crates, and Leclerc used to have an inventively decorated range according to locality and season but also Star Wars but they have recently changed to fabric bags.  I shan't need any for a while.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    Anybody know if Tesco still produce their jute shopping bags? I haven't seen them in our small Tesco here and ours is starting to disintegrate. Mind you, it must be at least 5 or 6 years old.

    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    Why do weather forcasters even bother to turn up for work? They predicted a band of heavy rain passing through this morning into early afternoon but it's blue sky and sunshine outside. We could have been out walking right now but we're stuck inside instead :|
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Maybe they could swap with the horoscope writers, political pundits and economic forecasters. Just shuffle them every now and then.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Given you know it's mostly guesswork @wild edges why don't you just look out of the window and then decide what to do?
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
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