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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    @Omari, off topic with apologies but have you seen the lovely pic of the 14 Labrador pups born to one mother recently - a record for multiple births for Labs apparently. Half the pups were cream ones, the other half were black, very sweet.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    I never know how to tell if a rose has the replant disease or if it is just a weak plant, bad bare root or slow starter. But thinking about it, my two slowest new roses this year are in places of the worst strugglers.
    And then there are roses which do well one year and are a dud the next year. Sandringham is just that, no new growth (other than leaves) and when forced-fed, it pushes out tiny deformed new growth. The 1st flush - one bloom. And I don't know if it is the shade or lack of water or lack of nutrients (and which ones) or disease (it has some but not badly). Just no idea. I would assume it is the replant disease if it were in a new spot but it isn't. What I do in similar cases is to give more water and wait.
  • DaffydillyDaffydilly Posts: 78
    Marlorena said:
    I'll post this here as it's relevant rather than on my Notes thread..
    ...if anyone wants to know what Rose Replant Disease looks like, here is an example from my garden... 

    Now this is when I would replace rather than hope this rose would recuperate.    I`ve moved plenty from pot to garden but never moved from 1 spot to another.  Looks like I won`t be trying it either :/
    Here, there and everywhere
  • DaffydillyDaffydilly Posts: 78
    Unless my post is legible you have to double click....I have no idea why!
    Here, there and everywhere
  • FlyDragonFlyDragon Posts: 834
    edited May 2020
    Marlorena said:
    I'll post this here as it's relevant rather than on my Notes thread..
    ...if anyone wants to know what Rose Replant Disease looks like, here is an example from my garden... I have many examples as my garden is continually 'blessed' with it, due to too many roses coming and going over the years...  I have at least 6 suffering currently.. some I have relocated to pots, others are still in situ..
    I hope Daniel doesn't mind, but I've copied and pasted one of his roses here below..

    ..the beautiful 'The Country Parson'... very good indeed for a first year Austin.. they must be getting their roses to deliver sooner these days.. lots of buds, and good growth..


    ...here's mine today, suffering rose replant.. it's about 8 inches tall, little new growth and is just saying to me ''I don't like it here, I can't grow here at the moment''.. no buds, no vigour.. I might as well remove it and pot it up.. I would then get good growth and probably some blooms by July time...  this is classic rose replant disease as it's been in the ground almost 12 weeks...


    Hi Marlorena, 

    How long would you say it takes for an area to recover and not be a risk anymore?

    I have stupidly planted 2 floribundas behind 2 hybrid teas so they are going to be barely visible.  I was going to wait till autumn and swap them over and do my best to mix in lots of fresh soil and compost to try and minimise disease. 

    However I’ve realised that if I take out the two floribundas now, and put them somewhere else in the garden, then next spring I have an excuse to buy 2 more hybrid teas or shrub roses in their places!  I’m very tempted by Darcey Bussell...
  • peteSpeteS Posts: 966
    Regarding replant disease, would it work if you dug a big enough and deep enough hole then filled it with a bag of John Innes No3 for example and a helping of manure. Then either disposed of the old soil or put it where roses don't grow. Would it be safe to scatter thinly on a compost heap.
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    @Lizzie27 Adorable! Makes me a little puppy broody...do not need 😝 
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